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When a 16-year-old girl named Greta Thunberg spoke with trembling anger of the unspeakable crimes today’s adults are committing against her and future generations, a chill ran down my spine. She will be alive to see the pulses of rapid sea level rise, the unraveling of industrial agriculture, the mass migration of hundreds of millions of climate refugees, and the disintegration of Earth’s biosphere. Today’s world with the ever-worsening breakdown of the biosphere is much more dangerous than during the Cold War when the threat of imminent nuclear annihilation hung in the air like the sword of Damocles, as expressed by President Kennedy: “Every man, woman and child lives under a nuclear sword of Damocles, hanging by the slenderest of threads, capable of being cut at any moment by accident or miscalculation or by madness.” Not only does the threat of nuclear war persist, the sword of abrupt climate breakdown now looms ever larger as governments are rendered impotent.
Scientists and the Red Cross recently warned the world is currently suffering at least one climate catastrophe per week and nearly two million people per week are needing humanitarian assistance. A UN global assessment confirms the planet is currently experiencing 2,500 conflicts over fossil fuel, water, food and land — conflicts directly related to the ongoing collapse of the earth’s biodiversity. No civilization in history has faced a complete reshuffling of the planet’s biosphere, let alone the ecological armageddon brought on by a Pandora’s box of pollutants from industrial civilization. Microplastics are literally raining from the sky. Irrevocably out-of-step with the natural world, modern civilization is destroying its host ecosystem by altering the geochemistry of the planet. A mass extinction event unlike any in Earth’s history is underway. Even if a small fraction of the global population survives this overshoot, it will take 10 million years for biodiversity to bounce back. Since atmospheric CO2 will ultimately be drawn down through a very slow natural process called sedimentation, the Earth will not reach pre-industrial CO2 levels again for more than 100,000 years. The last time CO2 levels were this high was 3 millions years ago during the Pliocene when temperatures were 3-4°C(5-7°F) higher globally than today, and sea levels were 15-20 meters(50-65 feet) higher. It was too warm for glacial ice sheets to even exist in the northern hemisphere.
At 412 ppm and rising, experts said temperature rises of 3-4C are likely now locked in.
What does any honest scientist have to say about mankind’s prospects in a 4°C world:
“There is a widespread view that a +4ºC future is incompatible with an organized global community, is likely to be beyond adaptation, is devastating to the majority of ecosystems and has a high probability of not being stable.”
Professor Kevin Anderson, Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research (Video, 58:00)
“We have already observed impacts of climate change on agriculture. We have assessed the amount of climate change we can adapt to. There’s a lot we can’t adapt to even at 2C. At 4C the impacts are very high and we cannot adapt to them.”
Rachel Warren, University of East Anglia
“There is a growing sense of panic in those who really understand what a 4°C world might be like.”
Prof. Will Steffan, Director of the Australian National University Climate Change Institute
“Thinking through the implications of 4 degrees of warming shows that the impacts are so significant that the only real adaptation strategy is to avoid that at all cost because of the pain and suffering that is going to cost.”
Prof. Neil Adger, University of Exeter
“…there is also no certainty that adaptation to a 4°C world is possible. A 4°C world is likely to be one in which communities, cities and countries would experience severe disruptions, damage, and dislocation, with many of these risks spread unequally. It is likely that the poor will suffer most and the global community could become more fractured, and unequal than today. The projected 4°C warming simply must not be allowed to occur.”
World Bank report (2012) Turn down the heat: why a 4°C warmer world must be avoided
“If we don’t reduce greenhouse gas emissions and ultimately stabilize CO2 — and we also have to draw down a lot of carbon out of the atmosphere. If we don’t achieve that, there’s no real prospect for a stable society or even a governable society…”
Jason Box, Prof in glaciology at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland
People are completely oblivious to our dependence on the complex adaptive systems that allow humans to exist and persist. To be clear, when the global temperature rises by 4°C within this century it will be faster than the blink of a geological eye, and we, along with 80% or more of the planet’s species are finished. 96% of all marine species and more than two-thirds of terrestrial species perished during the Great Dying at the Permian-Triassic interface. Global mean temperature at that time rose an estimated 5-8°C over a timespan of 3,000-20,000 years. A 4°C rise over just two centuries will be a rate of warming 15 to 100 times faster than that past extinction event. At this speed of warming, regions would experience temperature spikes of 10-15 degrees above normal in some months. Ecosystems would implode and the services they provide that sustain us would be obliterated. Virtually every vertebrate species on Earth would disappear, along with most plants and many invertebrates.
At just 1°C of warming we are already seeing major ecosystems such as coral reefs unraveling. Hurricanes so powerful that they require a new category now barrel across the Atlantic ocean and completely decimate islands; the cataclysmic Storms of our Grandchildren that Hansen warned about have only just begun. Arctic permafrost melt has already exceeded 2090 projections. It was economist William Nordhaus that set the 2°C warming target in 1975, not scientists. What did he get for this dangerous speculation, divorced from empirics? The Nobel, naturally. These days he is saying 3.5°C is just fine. John Kerry says we cannot leave the climate emergency in the hands of the neanderthals in power, but I dare say that anyone promoting mainstream economic theory is guilty of omnicide. Capitalism’s “extractivism” has turned the entire planet into a sacrifice zone.
Grand Bahama island before/after Hurricane Dorian made landfall, Sept 1, 2019
Humanity has essentially documented its own demise for the last half century while the Keeling curve inexorably rises faster than ever. As MIT Prof Daniel Rothman says, “When carbon levels in the atmosphere spike dramatically, the web of life collapses.” We are now seeing a record 10ppm of CO2 rise every four years and have have failed to curb emissions growth let alone move towards any sort of carbon neutral world. Alternative energies remain a sliver of total global energy consumption. In fact, “the annual increase in global energy use is greater than the increase in renewable energy, meaning fossil fuel use continues to grow.”
The rise of political ‘populism’ and the election of reactionary politicians in the U.S. and abroad has thrown yet another monkey wrench into any possibility of tackling the climate crisis. The demagogic Trump administration is simply burying any scientific evidence and ignoring its government’s own research on such things as the recent surge in climate refugees from Latin America due to climate-induced food insecurity. Russia and Brazil have both encouraged and precipitated the wildfire infernos raging in their countries. The catastrophe unfolding in the Amazon is a direct result of President Bolsonaro’s neoliberal policies designed to plunder the Amazon much like Trump’s dismantling of the EPA and deregulation of corporations. Both ignore the science of climate change and the reality of ecological collapse. In the case of Russia’s Putin, it was a cold economic calculus: “If the cost of putting out these remote fires is greater than the profit that could be made from selling the timber, they can decide to let it burn.”
And then there’s the global debt bomb of $250 trillion waiting to explode, not to mention the $200-250 trillion global carbon debt which increases by 16 trillion every year. Meanwhile, banks are quietly shielding themselves from climate catastrophe at taxpayers’ expense by shifting risky coastal mortgages off their books and onto the federal government’s Fannie and Freddie programs. Just as the U.S. government is leaving vulnerable countries to fend for themselves, so are private institutions unloading the risks onto the public. For those at the very top of our economic pyramid scheme who control public policy, dwindling resources will be kept first and foremost for them while everyone else is treated as collateral damage. This dereliction of responsibility, this cutting and running, is how the deteriorating conditions of the world are being handled. Throughout history, society’s elite have shown the same arrogance and hubris in the face of impending calamity. For example, the Fall of the Roman Empire:
If you read the chronicles of the early 5th century AD, you get the impression of total mayhem, with barbarian armies crisscrossing Europe and few, if any, Roman nobles and commanders trying to defend the Empire. Most of them seemed to be maneuvering to find a safe place where they could find safety for themselves. We don’t know what was the final destiny of Rutilius Namatianus but, since he had the time to finish his poem, we may imagine that he could build himself a castle in Southern France and his descendants may have become feudal lords. But not everyone made it. For instance, Paulinus of Pella, another rich Roman, contemporary of Namatianus, desperately tried to hold on his possessions in Europe, eventually considering himself happy just for having been able of surviving to old age.
We see a pattern here: when the rich Romans saw that things were going really out of control, they scrambled to save themselves while, at the same time, denying that things were so bad as they looked. We can see that clearly in Namatianus’ poem: he never ever hints that Rome was doomed. At most, he says, it was a temporary setback and soon Rome will be great again.
Thunberg’s speech alluded to such behavior by the polluting nations:
For more than 30 years, the science has been crystal clear. How dare you continue to look away and come here saying that you’re doing enough, when the politics and solutions needed are still nowhere in sight. You say you hear us and that you understand the urgency. But no matter how sad and angry I am, I do not want to believe that. Because if you really understood the situation and still kept on failing to act, then you would be evil. And that I refuse to believe.
Yes, Greta, they are evil; they have access to every expert on the seriousness of the crisis and they are building walls and saving their own skin while continuing business-as-usual. Lest we forget, the fossil fuel industry’s own scientists accurately predicted the life-threatening effects of its product decades ago and not only did they do nothing to stop it, they funded and orchestrated a vast network of climate denial propaganda which continues to this day and have raced to exploit even more fossil fuels from the melting Arctic. When you consider that billions of people are going to die as a result, their actions become by far the greatest crimes against humanity ever committed. Make no mistake, our society is trading a livable planet for an unsustainable way of life that is irreparably depleting finite resources and altering the earth for eons, making it uninhabitable for organized human societies. Each day of business-as-usual further degrades the planet’s biodiversity.
“As the temperature rises, the patricians will seek refuge as polar migrants, or set sail on heavily armed ocean liners. Millions more will live in underground cities, anywhere to escape the sun. Dazzling reports of new methods for sopping up the gigatons of carbon dioxide will create ripples of enthusiasm and then fade in the next news cycle. Fisheries and agriculture will collapse, drugs will provide little solace, and everyone will curl up in a foetal position in the end, like the ash-entombed victims at Pompeii, whimpering in the inescapable heat. The likelihood of this outcome increases as the years pass and the smoke rises.”
~ Nicholas P. Money, THE SELFISH APE: Human Nature and Our Path to Extinction
And thunberg is just the palatable, white, tokenistic face of this catastrophe. There’s no way the many activist young girls and women of colour speaking out against the very real threat of climate change directly affecting their lives will get anywhere near the media Greta gets. In Sweden, she’s completely protected. The world is far, far worse than anything Greta is saying, she doesn’t know the half of it, and never can know.
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I think Greta knows. She will know more as she travels beyond Sweden. In NYC, she has not been hobnobbing with policymaking elites, but with other young people of all stripes.
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A major clue should be California’s unprecedented planned blackouts to stave off the fire risk of dry winds and exposed power lines. First it was set for northern California, now SoCal is facing forced outages due to Santa Ana winds. Nobody expected this twist just a few years ago.
https://prepareforpowerdown.com/ (worded as politely as possible)
It’s partly an economic decision to stave off more lawsuits, since many people are ignoring the root cause and whining about PG&E’s “handling” of the situation, as if all those power lines could be quickly buried.
As in the 1996 movie, “The Trigger Effect,” people could start wars with neighbors over various irritants. Those most likely to erupt are AGW-deniers, too stupid to see that “private citizens” can’t solve this by holing up with guns and blaming the gub’mint or utilities.
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Greta is a prepaid poster child:
http://www.theartofannihilation.com/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-for-consent-the-political-economy-of-the-non-profit-industrial-complex/
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Another quote from page 76 of ‘The Selfish Ape’ : ‘Solar panels and electric cars are funeral decorations for Earth’
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An excellent article and Greta is a hero for speaking out with the eloquence that she does. I am 57, and when I look back at my younger self at the age of 16, I would never have been able to come anything close to her command of the most complex argument that humanity has ever faced, and I don’t think anyone else of my generation would have been able to do so.
We have no choice now but to start an urgent solar radiation management programme, slides of recent presentation are here: https://www.slideshare.net/nieldunnage/a-forthright-discussion-on-climate-change?fbclid=IwAR2CFnPxz710NFyEz-66DOfUsexNIdDnEwnt1uQPjk3yBKgpAbd4dJZh340
Link to a paper is here: https://www.academia.edu/39643753/A_game_theory_assessment_of_climate_change_negotiations_and_deployment_of_Solar_Radiation_Management
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Part of me wants to learn more about Greta Thunberg, but I recognize her individual story as a modest distraction from the larger story of civilizational collapse. And in support of the distraction, I’ve seen (headlines only, since they’re not worth reading) far too many profiles of her that are obvious attempts to (metaphorically) kill the messenger but then refuse to address the message.
I can definitely appreciate the desperate indignation with which she accuses global leaders of taking active part in the destruction of the biosphere. In my more charitable moods, I rationalize our abject failures as simply muddling through, which describes nearly all of modern history. In more angry moods, I echo Thunberg’s vehemence and desire to punish the decision-makers who knowingly trade lives (present and future) for profit. We’re beginning to see a new generational rift opening up. Can only wonder how that will shape politics in the time left before social systems break down completely.
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Take note of this article saying her message puts too much blame on leaders, and lets individuals (the bulk of the population) off the hook. Many people can’t even be bothered to turn off their engines for 10 minutes unless they leave the vehicle (and so on)..
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/24/how-greta-thunbergs-rise-could-backfire-on-environmentalists.html
“Greta, and the adults guiding her, are seeking to shift almost all the focus from personal responsibility to governments and big corporations to enact environmental reform. Their argument is that individual people can’t do much to save the world from climate change disaster when energy companies and governments focused mostly on economic growth don’t care enough to make the big changes…….The adult version of that argument emerged earlier this month when Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren basically mocked personal conservation efforts. Warren told a climate town hall audience and later tweeted that the fossil fuel industry wants the public to discuss issues like plastic straws, lightbulbs, and cheeseburgers so they can continue to get away with producing most of the emissions blamed for climate change.”
I agree with that piece, along the lines of Pogo’s “We have met the enemy and it is us.” – which is often nodded at, then ignored.
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Under the sidebar “Notes and Documents” (left side of this website), there is a study you need to read:
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/pressReleases/2014/August/140905_JCR_giesler.html
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How can she be a distraction when she is calling our leaders out for ignoring the calamity we face? She is not silencing the voices of other protestors. She can be seen encouraging ethnic minorities and everyone else to join in the clamour. I’d put my trust in Greta over Trump, Johnson, Putin and the rest!
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Yes, the word “distraction” requires one to define distracting-from-what. I’d call her a fad at this point.
Her ability to sail the Atlantic in a slick (albeit spartan) modern boat puts her more in line with techie “environmentalists” like Elon Musk, even if she’s humble at home. But if she tried to cross in an organic boat like the Kon-Tiki she’d look overly smug. You can’t win the image war. It’s good that she’s not overtly attractive, like how Fox sells ideas. Her mom works it, though: https://youtu.be/GbVkiNxxuHo (WTH?)
The big hurdle is trying to change billions of individual human-natures, programmed by evolution to take or steal whatever they can from nature. It’s doubtful that any one activist can make a real dent. Just wait until shale oil production peaks.
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The main story is the ongoing collapse of industrial civilization, and with it the ecosphere, caused primarily by a host of human behaviors and basic mismanagement. Some of it is accidental, just the way things developed; some is absolutely malign and purposeful. The obvious question once the story becomes clear to thinking people is “what, if anything, can or should be done?” That’s a question for societies, communities, families, and individuals. Answers are … imperfect. Solutions are nonexistent.
Once the story becomes about a person leading an information campaign or social movement, well, the focus shifts and invites detractors including the MSM only too happy to kill the messenger. We saw it with Al Gore and An Inconvenient Truth, where half the story was about him getting the message out. We saw it with Collapse, the 2009 document that was almost wholly about Michael Rupert and only tangentially about collapse. We see it with how Guy McPherson is pilloried and closed out of “official” channels in an effort to invalidate his summary of scientific findings and news. We see it with Bill McKibben, who is the shiny, acceptable face of the environmental movement but whose signature organization 350.org (a target for limiting atmospheric CO2 level, which we blew past decades ago) embraces pointless incrementalism that accomplishes nothing.
So Greta Thunberg is among the latest to contextualize the magnitude of the problem of climate change and demand change quite vociferously. Good for her. Except that by virtue of her promotion to the top of the news cycle regarding climate change, out come the detractors, killing the messenger while the message is sidelined. For instance, Putin said something to the effect that climate and energy policies will not be decided based on the emotions of a 16-year-old Swedish girl. Her Asperger’s is also used to call into question her authority (moral or otherwise) or distract from her main message, which diverges from the main story in that she leaves no doubt her generation judges previous generations harshly for their inaction and promises no forgiveness for dooming everyone. Quite flamboyant. Pretty sure the proper focus is lost while we attend to her.
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Another excellent and “prophetic” post, Xray Mike…thank you!
I would love to include your perspectives and story as part of my “post-doom” series. I’ve read every post you’ve written in recent years and I’m not aware of any significant place where we differ. (You’re just a much better writer than I am.)
Here’s info on the podcast series: https://www.postdoom.com/
On a separate but related note, I recorded your interview with Nick Humphrey and think you’ll enjoy many of the other recordings on my “RIP Homo colossus” playlist as well: https://soundcloud.com/michael-dowd-grace-limits/sets/rip-homo-colossus
Thanks, again, Mike, for so clearly saying what needs to be said.
~ Michael
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Ditto xraymike. You too Michael Dowd. Both of you are among a small handful of people who never have, and probably never will get the credit you deserve for your tireless efforts in educating & communicating ugly truths.
It does appear more folks are slowly waking up (consequences not science) & it would not surprise me if a bunch of them find you.
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Thanks so much for your heartful and generous response, Apneaman!
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Let me watch the videos you’ve done thus far and I’ll get back with you.
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Great. I look forward to hearing your honest feedback on the videos to-date, and if you’d like to be included. Personally, I think your voice is vital. The one’s uploaded are linked from here: http://thegreatstory.org/new.html
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fyi… Nick Humphrey and I have just begun a conversation about the possibility of co-authoring a short book together in the next six months, possibly titled, “Post-Doom: A Mythic Celebration of Life, Limits, and Meaning in an Age of Extinction.” Will keep you posted.
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fyi… Nick Humphrey and I have just begun a conversation about the possibility of co-authoring a short book together in the next six months, possibly titled, “Post-Doom: A Mythic Celebration of Life, Limits, and Meaning in an Age of Extinction.” Will keep you posted.
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Just uploaded my audio narrated “best hits” playlist from Meteorologist Nick Humphrey: https://soundcloud.com/michael-dowd-grace-limits/sets/
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My only issue with Greta is her tendency to blame “them” aka governments and corporations, while letting masses of average wastrels off the hook, like the people who keep their engines idling while browsing their phones. And, at the end of the day, politicians and CEOs are citizens as well. There really is no “they” to blame when it’s the sum of human behaviors.
Most people are now searching for excuses to maintain their comfort level with “clean energy” that really isn’t. I hope her Atlantic sailboat trip wasn’t an affirmation of industrial wind power, which is lumped in with “green” technologies while causing massive blight on nature. The latest notable threat from wind power is insect casualties, which many engineers see in terms of blade efficiency, not food chain disruption.
https://falseprogress.home.blog/2016/08/29/windturbineslandscapes/
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Greta’s racing-yacht trip across the Atlantic may have required trips by air for a crew to bring the boat back to Europe – but it gives her the moral authority to talk about lifestyle change. She is absolutely correct to lay the blame for our predicament on corporations – for decades, they have employed a deliberate strategy to encourage consumerism in the USA and elsewhere. After the Depression and World War II, Americans became necessarily frugal; they had to be taught how to waste. This article is particularly revealing:
https://discardstudies.com/2014/07/09/modern-waste-is-an-economic-strategy/
The editor of Modern Packaging Magazine delivered these remarks at a plastics industry convention in Chicago in 1963 – it doesn’t get much more blatant than this:
Click to access stoffer-plastics-packacing-today-and-tomorrow-1963.pdf
Yes, we are all “wastrels” now – because the system has left us little choice. (Greta’s yacht trip was no luxury journey – the accommodations on board were spartan – there were no creature comforts at all…)
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dk’s two cents…
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Hello Mike, I am a big fan of your articles and forward them on regularly to my family to ruin their day.
My question (to you and others commenting) is this: are you vegan? If not, why not?
Some have written that Greta puts too much onus on leaders and lets individuals off the hook. If that is the case, then what about you and the readers of this column? What possible justification could you have to not be vegan?
Cheerio and good-day.
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What is needed is a spiritual revolution in which we all realise we are connected to universal love; then damaging our home would be as stupid as putting you hand on a red hot stove.
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“Finally, for those with more iron stomachs, you might be interested in the collapsitarian comments found within “Greta Thunberg Speaks the Horrific Truth of Humanity’s Fate.” 😂
https://info.populationmedia.org/pmc-weekly-climate-change-seems-settled-is-population-finally-next
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Great post Mike. Keep up the good work please.
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But here’s where Greta Thunberg or AOC and everyone who wants to ban fossil fuels doesn’t get. You ban fossil fuels, you kill off 7+ billion people pretty quick. The entire system was designed around fossil fuels. We got to 7+ quickly going on 8 billion humans because of fossil fuels. It’s in everything we use and eat (not literally) about 10 calories of fossil fuel inputs for each calorie we consume.
The BIGGER and more IMMEDIATE problems are what we can do something about because if we DON’T, Climate Change won’t even be on the radar.
And those problems are:
1) Dumping plastics, toxic chemicals and nuclear waste into our oceans because we are now dealing with ever expanding ocean dead zones (i.e. nothing lives). Kill the oceans and humans are dead regardless of climate change.
2) We are running our top soil where ecologists are sounding the alarm that within decades it will be hard if not nearly impossible to grow enough food to sustain life on earth.
We are also being warned about running out of phosphorus and we are being warned that within 80 years if not much sooner we will run out. Try growing food without it.
3) We need to stop using chemicals that are found in Round Up in our fertilizers because there is a direct link to bees and insect die off. Wipe out the insects and say bye bye to pollination to grow food and you take with it birds who eat insects.
4) If we continue to invade and wipeout the animal population we will change the balance on this planet and not for the better.
5) Nuclear power is a disaster with all the potential accidents i.e. Three Mile Island and Fukushima where TEPCO is running out of radioactive waste water and are considering, dumping it in the Pacific Ocean.
6) Then of course there are the spent fuel rods we have to maintain and worry about.
So while we focus on Climate Change there are more immediate things we need to focus on because if we don’t say good bye to humans and the Earth will find a way to rebalance itself in time.
Que up the George Carlin video on saving the planet.
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Regarding nuclear power, you’re talking about much older designs. Molten salt reactors (SMR) look like the best bet to replace sprawling wind and solar farms on open space. Ruling out nuclear leaves no real options and is generally reactionary. Most people don’t even understand what “half life” really means, e.g. a longer half life cam often mean a safer substance (context beyond the scope of this post).
And the 1992 George Carlin bit (“The Planet Is Fine”) is full of fallacies about humans and natural extinction rates, and brands all environmentalists as phony Hollywood types. The planet is hardly fine, even though people are indeed f–cked.
He pushed the bogus idea that nature will just take care of itself, as if all the damage people are causing doesn’t really matter. This was before global warming made headlines, but it would have been like him saying “Don’t worry, let warming take its course.” Carlin blamed the wrong people for what he called excessive “worrying.” Most people should worry MORE instead of being apathetic drones. Comments on various postings of that video are full of right-wingers denying environmental problems altogether.
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I agree re. the Carlin video. Just one more ecologically clueless moron. I like a lot of his other videos, though.
Here in Australia we’re progressing splendidly on our collective project to turn the country into a desert in the shortest time possible. If you read this article, keep in mind that the area it focuses mainly on,NSW, will become increasingly desiccated
over the coming decades.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2019/oct/17/stripped-bare-australias-hidden-climate-crisis
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I don’t know if Carlin was going for shock value in that 1992 rant, or truly meant it all. Too many drugs, maybe. He mostly came off as someone cynical about human nature; said he’d given up on “the species,” per one interview. Respecting nature and dissing people can be two different agendas.
Crikey, Australia seems to be aiming for a U.S. 1930s dust bowl sequel. Not very bright. One of my main beefs is all the clearing and logging done for IWTs by green hypocrites. I like the Aussie site, StopTheseThings when they’re not being sarcastic about AGW.
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Tim Watkins on Extinction Rebellion:
http://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2019/10/16/what-extinction-rebellion-is-getting-wrong/
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xraymike, can we schedule a time to talk? Here are the questions I’d love to invite you address, if you’re willing: https://www.postdoom.com/conversations
~ Michael
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Reading xraymike and others for so many years and from my own perspective and many others, the question, what to do? I am a very rural person who sees the destruction first hand. I have gone to your site Michael and see some possibilities. That is a big plus! I do recommend those of us who see the obvious doom to find a way to work forward as it is not impossible. Thanks to both of you!
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Reading xraymike and others for so many years and from my own perspective and many others, the question, what to do? I am a very rural person who sees the destruction first hand. I have gone to your site Michael and see some possibilities. That is a big plus! I do recommend those of us who see the obvious doom to find a way to work forward as it is not impossible. Thanks to both of you!
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From The Matrix
Agent Smith: I’d like to share a revelation during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you’re not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we are the cure.
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You can’t always get what you want
But sometimes you get what you deserve.
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Don’t call humans a viral or plague species, for they’ll get offended and rebel at the very notion. The less intelligent ones, that is. The smarter ones see it as a collective problem, not a personal insult. Of course the former outnumber the latter so we’ve got a predicament.
https://falseprogress.home.blog/2018/06/24/why-saving-the-planet-is-a-lost-cause/
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Good read.
Of course being one of the Clever Apes I already know everything,
Don’t waste bullets! Cut my throat! 😉
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You know Doomer blogs are the equivalent of telling reckless drunks that they’re drunk, over and over again.
As guitarist & philosopher J.W. wrote: “How can everyone see it, and yet be so blind?”
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There’s too much,too fast to try & keep up with, much less post. But it is entertaining.
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