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When a former hedge fund manager uses the word “extinction” seven times in his article, that tends to get my attention. Robert Hunziker has written a new article entitled America’s Ecological Precipice which is an overview of many of the things we have been talking about here. He identifies two primary threats from the Arctic which is currently in runaway climate change:
(1) The warming Arctic alters the atmospheric jet streams, bringing in its wake embedded droughts similar to the 2012 blistering drought, the worst drought since the 1950s.
(2) Additionally, and more critically, the warming Arctic is flat-out releasing methane into the atmosphere like there is no tomorrow, threatening to heat up the entire planet, which, over time, could turn into a worldwide scorcher, possibly triggering an extinction event.
He mentions that the Arctic Methane Emergency Group [AMEG] has decided to quantify the amount of methane that is now escaping into the atmosphere from these Arctic areas. I was not aware of this, and I have not seen any data from them.
Based upon eight (8) joint Russian/American scientific expeditions into the Arctic under the aegis of the International Arctic Research Centre at the University Alaska Fairbanks, methane fields of a breathtakingly fantastic scale have been discovered with plumes over a half-mile wide spewing methane directly into the atmosphere in concentrations 100 times higher than normal. The Russian and American scientists have never before experienced anything of such magnitude, and in addition to powerful emissions from shallow waters where over 100 readings were recorded, it is spewing up from within cracks in the Arctic ice in the open seas far from land.
Moreover, the quantities of methane in the continental shelf alone are so huge and overwhelming that only 1% or 2% of the methane released could lead to an unstoppable chain reaction of runaway overheating of the planet.
Along these lines, the Arctic Methane Emergency Group is deciding to quantify, for the first time ever, the results of runaway climate change, leading to the probability of an extinction event on planet earth. Unfortunately for those who choose to disregard concerns about climate change, this could happen within their lifetimes, or their children, or grandchildren. Nobody knows for sure.
The most current readings from NOAA show a continual rise in global CH4 levels:
I suspected the Arctic readings would be off the chart, and indeed they are, according to those published at methane-hydrates.blogspot.com. Just to put in context those values in the chart below, levels of CH4 have historically been much lower, except in times of mass extinction:
In 2010, methane levels in the Arctic were measured at 1850 nmol/mol, a level over twice as high as at any time in the 400,000 years prior to the industrial revolution. Historically, methane concentrations in the world’s atmosphere have ranged between 300 and 400 nmol/mol during glacial periods commonly known as ice ages, and between 600 to 700 nmol/mol during the warm interglacial periods. It has a high global warming potential: 72 times that of carbon dioxide over 20 years, and 25 times over 100 years,[43] and the levels are rising. Recent research suggests that the Earth’s oceans are a potentially important new source of Arctic methane.[44]
…The Earth’s atmospheric methane concentration has increased by about 150% since 1750, and it accounts for 20% of the total radiative forcing from all of the long-lived and globally mixed greenhouse gases (these gases don’t include water vapor which is by far the largest component of the greenhouse effect).[47] – source
These sky high methane emissions are from East Antarctica and appear to be from methane hydrates in the form of free gas bubbling up through the ice sheet. The danger is that such emissions appear to be escalating not only over Antarctica, but also on the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau and in the Arctic. Just recently, a Russian ice base had to be evacuated due to the thinning ice in the Arctic. This is a foreboding sign of that which is to come.
Like the 350.org which campaigns in vain to stop the inexorable rise in CO2, there is now a similar group for methane emissions, called 1250now.org which aims to keep global CH4 below that level. As they say, the genie is already out of its bottle and such efforts are merely psychological exercises of comforting self-delusionment. At the same time, the heads of industry are just trying to figure out how to exploit the stuff in order to burn it.
I’ve strayed a bit from Hunziker’s original article so getting back to it, he describes how lackadaisical the U.S. government has been in response to such dire climate change warnings like that coming from the National Climate Assessment report which stated the following:
Threats to human health from increased extreme weather events, wildfires and air pollution, as well as diseases spread by insects and through food and water;
Less reliable water supply, and the potential for water rights to become a hot-button legal issue;
More vulnerable infrastructure due to sea-level rise, bigger storm surges, heavy downpours and extreme heat;
Warmer and more acidic oceans.
On the topic of our vanishing water supply and the state of America’s High Plains Aquifer, “one of the world’s great aquifers responsible for about 30% of America’s irrigated land,” Hunziker writes :
The recent extreme drought of 2012 across America’s breadbasket has brought the seriousness of a shortage of water to a crescendo as the Kansas Geological Survey reported that average water levels dropped nearly a third of the total decline since 1996… over a period of only two years! Or, put another way, 1/3 of the total 17-year drawdown of the aquifer occurred in 2 years. This is not a telltale signal of gathering disaster. Rather, the possibility of an impending collapse of the ecosystem is at the doorstep!
But most amusing is the story of GOP sweetheart Sarah Palin and her total flip-flop on the reality of climate change. When she was governor of Alaska back in 2007, she wholeheartedly endorsed taking action to ameliorate the effects of climate change:
At the time, Governor Palin stated: “Climate change is not just an environmental issue. It is also a social, cultural, and economic issue important to all Alaskans… As a result of this warming, coastal erosion, thawing permafrost, retreating sea ice, record forest fires, and other changes are affecting, and will continue to affect, the lifestyles and livelihoods of Alaskans.
But then when she joined McCain’s 2008 presidential ticket, her brain was apparently run through the Republican anti-science indoctrination machine and viola! She instantly became a climate change denier:
…Once Palin joined the Republican ticket, within 12 months, she dismissed climate science as “snake oil.”
…Nowadays, the politicians in Alaska, very much aware of the changes in the polar region, are positioning Alaska as a gateway for shipping traffic and production of oil beneath the increasingly ice-free seas of Arctic waters. And, Palin’s brief legacy of concern about a viciously changing climate evaporated into thin air. Poof… gone!
Money in American politics, like most other places in the world, corrupts absolutely. Money is all that is needed for smarmy politicians to turn their backs on the future of their own children. I hope they can eat all that worthless currency that’s flying off the money presses because real food is going to be hard to come by in the future, especially when the hungry masses are climbing your palace walls to raid your pantry:
According to NASA Goddard Institute of Space Studies, Kansas will be 4 degrees warmer in winter without Arctic ice, which regularly generates cold air masses that flow southward into the U.S. (You’ve probably heard weather forecasters say the following hundreds of times: People in the middle part of the country had better button up. We’ve got an Arctic Cold Front hitting this weekend and temperatures will drop 15-to-20 degrees overnight.) But, with an ice-less Arctic, this legacy of cool Arctic air serving to regulate the climate in the U.S. will be mostly gone, ineffective.
As follows, the problem for Kansas: Warmer winters are bad news for the wheat farmers’ requirement for freezing temperatures to grow winter wheat, and during summer, warmer days rob Kansas of precious soil moisture, drying out valuable wheat crop. Which means Kansas will increasingly depend upon one of the world’s largest aquifers, which is already drying up in certain locations, even if drought conditions are not present.
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Carbon dioxide has a molecular mass of 44, and therefore ends to reside in the lower atmosphere (N2=28, O2=32).
Methane, on the other hand, has a molecular mass of just 16, so it tends to migrate to the upper atmosphere.
C-H bonds are not easily broken, but methane has the potential to be oxidised to methanol CH3OH, methanal CH2O, methanioc acid HCO2H and ultimately to CO2 by interaction with ozone molecules O3., which are formed in the upper atmosphere.
We have known for decades that numerous halogen-containing substances break down O3, resulting in the so-called ozone hole.
We have little idea what effect a surge in the concentration of methane will have on the ozone ‘layer’ that makes the surface of the Earth habitable by significantly reducing the UV reaching the biosphere.
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As I understand it, the acidification of the oceans, caused by CO2 dissolving in the seawater to form carbonic acid, is quite sufficient to cause an extinction event completely independently from all the other insults that our activities are inflicting upon the biosphere.
As I understand it, previous acidifications, of which there have been many, have not always caused massive extinctions of marine life, because, to an extent, marine organisms can adapt and buffer to compensate. But those changes in pH were relatively slow and gentle, over, say, 1000 years, nothing like the rapid changes we are causing now, over decades.
ftp://ftp.gfdl.noaa.gov/pub/mbw/Ocean_Acidification_Papers/Veron_2008.pdf
My apologies to those whom I offend, who still cling to ‘transition’ and the kind of scenarios outlined by people like JMG and Ran Prieur, who think of a long slow collapse, and the even more ludicrous visions of trans-humanist and techno-utopians, but I am out of patience with people who do not comprehend that we are biological creatures that require basic needs, clean air, water, food, a certain humidity and temperature range, and so forth, and who do not understand that the biosphere is collapsing NOW, all around us, as I write and you read.
This, unfortunately, includes a vast number of members of the educated elite scientific establishment. These people are alarmed and well-intentioned, but they still don’t get it!
http://mahb.stanford.edu/consensus-statement-from-global-scientists/
As Guy says, we have set in motion IRREVERSIBLE self-reinforcing feedback loops, which we can do NOTHING to stop. These will persist for centuries, even many thousands of years.
Even if we take ALL the actions those scientists recommend – and what’s the betting that they will be ignored, just as all similar previous efforts have been disregarded ? – that STILL does not get us out of this mess. I mean, i could dissect the whole effing proposal, but what’s the point.
I can understand that nobody wants to face this, because it is HORRIBLE. But what good does telling lies to one’s self and to others, do ? Pretending it’s not happening isn’t going to stop it from happening, is it.
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That was kind of a “Deer in the Headlights” little speech there… and then we all returned to making money, driving to the mall, watching TV, and shopping at Walmart.
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ulvfugl wrote:
I’m out of patience with all that, too, but as with so many other aspects of our multiple dilemmas, I find there is little point to beating my breast about it. I sometimes want to vent my anger and rage about it all, but all I can usually muster is horror. Besides, making a nuisance of myself adds nothing to the discussion.
Agreed. I’ll be as truthful and honest as I can, but nothing works in the face of our inchoate fear of the unknown — the metaphorical darkness where dangerous things lurk but won’t stir if we don’t disturb them. All too late for that, of course, so we refuse to acknowledge the rustling about us — except for a few of us, anyway.
I’ll admit, I don’t really read far into any of the scientific analyses. They all point the same direction: massive discontinuity and unpredictability, what some describe as nonlinear. Armed as I am with only a modest science education, the most basic fact still able to be grokked by the masses is that we live on a water world, where oceans are both the base of the food chain and the creator/regulator of the air we land-based creature breathe. The oceans need not die in their totality before withdrawal of their support functions kills us, yet we behave as if it’s all expendable. We can’t even admit such basic biological mechanisms, so the oceans are simultaneously overharvested and used as dump sites for everything. Real smart, like the rest of collective mistakes.
All this came into view multiple times in modern history, most notably in the ecology movement of the 1970s. Refusal to deal with our diminishing options then was perhaps the real turning point, when true solutions still existed. This decade may be the great awakening, too late to do anything to forestall our doom. As the saying goes, it’s all over but the shouting. And then silence ….
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I took the liberty of commenting on your blog, Brutus. I hope you don’t mind. I did go through both comments after wrotong them, removing all the unnecessary expletives, so as not to offend you more gentile clientele 😉
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I clicked on over, ulvfugl, had a look and enjoyed it, thanks – a good handful of takeaway thoughts.
“I slug everybody, leavergirl, that’s one of my principles.”
That’s about the 4th time today that Deadwood has come to mind…in this case Al Swearengen…
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Hahaha, well, regret I don’t make any money, I write this out of pure love and rage, I don’t drive, no malls here, no tv, but I have to admit, I do get stuff delivered by Tesco, which is a sort of UK version of Walmart, sort of…
The oceans are all dying. 90% of large fish gone, oxygen levels dropping, dead zones increasing, coral reefs dying, sea mammals dying, etc, etc, etc.
Here’s another reference. Can you believe ‘not foreseen’ ! Where were they ?
Basic carbonate chemistry suggests that the addition to the ocean of a fraction of the CO2 that enters the atmosphere from the burning of fossil fuels would lower the saturation state of calcium carbonate in the ocean. However, except for the past few years, the issue of ocean acidification has largely received little attention from the scientific community, partly because the magnitude of the increase in fossil fuel emissions over the past several decades was not foreseen. In addition, the issue has not affected the thinking of fisheries scientists strongly, because studies on the biological effects of decreasing pH were mostly confined to corals and calcareous phytoplankton
http://icesjms.oxfordjournals.org/content/68/6/1019.full
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That’s one doozy of an oversight. Oops, we didn’t see that freight train coming at us. As a matter of fact we didn’t realize we were standing on railroad tracks.
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Also,
Take a look at the myths about methane:
http://methane-hydrates.blogspot.com/p/myths.html
You’ll see that we are woefully underestimating its effects and will be caught with our pants down just as we were with the dying oceans.
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Speaking of dying oceans, I found this interesting (comment left from another forum):
Speaking of difficult facts:
“China is dramatically under-reporting what it’s taking from the world’s seas. The average it told the UN Food and Agriculture Organization over the last decade was 368,000 tons each year. A recent European Parliament report puts that number at 4.6 million tons — some 12.5 times more than what China reported.
China Is Plundering the Planet’s Seas: http://tinyurl.com/bpafge4
China Under-Reports Global Fish Catch: http://tinyurl.com/buct6mh
(EU Report) The role of China in World Fisheries: http://tinyurl.com/bwevuds
…”
As has been said before, America’s population is a rounding error for China’s pop. I can’t think of a faster way to eco-apocalypse than to export the American way-of-life to the globe.
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Very sobering……or would be to someone who hasn’t already figured out what we all know……
I don’t understand why my psyche has handled all this well enough for me to be carrying on as a fairly sane person. This information about the reality of the collapse of the biosphere should cause people stronger emotionally than me to go crazy, or into a deep depression. I mean, we are talking about the somewhat imminent death of every single thing we love and care about, or could ever love or care about. How can it get any worse than that? Am I just getting numb?
I have noticed lately that, even though I have been a biophiliac all my life, I can be in the middle of nature now, whether it is a forest, or seaside, or beautiful mountain or pasture, and it just doesn’t move me like it used to. Is it because I am seeing it all as already dead?
Oddly, I can go to work each day, go through the motions, treat my patients, show concern and caring to my kids and wife, go to the movies, watch baseball, ride my bicycle, enjoy my meal, and basically live my life much as I always have.
Yet each night I need my fix…..reading what you guys all bring up. The REAL stuff. It is as if all day while I live through my normal life, something is telling me I’m living in some kind of fantasy land, a land in which truth is avoided, and finally I can’t fake it any more and have to face the stark and dark reality. I can be dishonest with myself for a while, and for the sake of my family and others who depend on me. But eventually I need these moments reading what is on these pages and being honest with myself.
Thanks to you all. Somehow you are keeping me sane.
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Very hard to define what ‘sane’ is, isn’t it, Paul ?
Around the time kevin describes below, miner’s strike, I found myself as one of the older members of a group of about 150 outcast type of youngsters, in a rural town, during the punk rock explosion, where there were no jobs or prospects for them.
Many had gone through the whole education system and could barely read and write. Many spent most days intoxicated on alcohol and mixed cocktails of drugs and there were lots of casualties, and I’d do my best as a sort of barefoot therapist, and I was often asked ‘Do you think I’m insane ?’ and my reply would be, because there was no time or opportunity to do anything else ‘Look, it doesn’t matter what you think or believe or anything, all that matters is that you can get yourself out of bed, put your clothes on, eat, do some things, pay your bills, take care of business, all that stuff, because if YOU don’t do it, some other fucker has to look after you, and nobody wants that job….’ and more in that vein, because those people were ‘large children’ and nobody had taught them even the basics of how to cook food or anything.
You know, their parents didn’t want them, and they didn’t want to live at home, they just wanted to party 24/7 to forget how lost and unhappy and afraid they were, and wanting sex and excitement and adventures, and they’d bring 17 year old kids to my house at 3 a.m who were drunk and full of mushrooms and amphetamines and god knows what else, who wanted to cut their wrists, because I was the only crazy bastard in the whole town who would listen seriously for hours, to crazy questions like ‘Why am I alive ?’ and try and help, nobody else would do it, not the doctors, not the hospital, not the police, not the vicar…
Btw, very good blog on hunter gatherers you’ve made, excellent.
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For a good laugh see http://www.carbontracker.org/
The markets will save us!
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From my perspective, the most powerful presentation in this conference was the one yesterday by Guy McPherson who shared the truly hard science about climate change and Near-Term Extinction (NTE). The science is more than substantial, to which some conference participants who ARE scientists could attest. The presentation was sobering and, indeed, sad as we all recognized that the only thing that can slow down irreversible climate change is the collapse of industrial civilization. For those in doubt, I encourage you to follow Guy’s other presentations on You Tube and at his blog Nature Bats Last.
http://carolynbaker.net/2013/05/27/where-in-the-hell-is-artemas-pennsylvania/
Hmmm. I used to recommend that people learn about permaculture, start or join communities, support EF!, all kinds of things like that.
But it didn’t work. So, although I still support DGR and Guy’s position and analysis, there’s such a stark paradox there, in that phrase ‘slow down irreversible’….
I mean. We still hit NTE.
Nobody sane and humane WANTS this to happen.
The end of most life on Earth, whether that’s all the large creatures and the large vegetation, leaving rats, cockroaches, jelly fish, etc, or maybe even they disappear and it gets down to extremophiles.
But to ‘slow down’, meaning to end industrial civilisation that depends on fossil fuels, and is causing the irreversible climate change, means billions, even billions, of people who depend upon fossil fuels, will die.
Nobody sane and humane WANTS that to happen, either.
I don’t think that there is any actual practical action that can lead to what might be considered a ‘good’ option here. Only ‘very bad’ and ‘slightly less bad’.
You know, you’ve got six children. There’s only enough food for one. Do you share it out, so that they all slowly starve and die, or give it to one, so that one survives, while the others die ? Do you kill the five to shorten their suffering ?
The option we appear to be taking is to just walk away and avoid all responsibility.
From my personal perspective, the sooner industrial civilisation ends, the better, because slightly more of the natural world will be left. The longer it continues, the more will get destroyed. But I am not optimistic that there is any way that it can be ended, until it has exhausted itself by destroying everything.
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That’s right, we are walking away from responsibility. As I stated in the previous post:
“The short term profit-seeking, Darwinian paradigm of capitalism will abdicate to nature the responsibility of dealing with pollution and ecocide and resource depletion; nature will exact its revenge by culling the human population through wars, famine, disease, and eco-collapse. According to the tenants of capitalism, only the fittest will survive.”
The market cannot function without externalizing environmental and social costs. In his presentation, Nate Hagens stated that the top twenty profitable industries would not be profitable if they accounted for all environmental and social costs. Think about that. The way of living we have constructed, capitalist industrial civilization, is inherently unsustainable.
There won’t be an international agreement or cooperation on this situation because there will always be someone who will cheat to gain a competitive advantage with fossil fuels.
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I grew up [in England] believing in progress. Fortunately, my father pointed me away from cigarette smoking, religion, monarchy-worship etc. and towards self-reliance.
In my twenties I thought that people like the Prime Minister, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, managers of companies etc. were very clever people, and that the ideas associated with Limits to Growth would be implemented to create a better world.
In my thirties I began to have very serious doubts, especially when I saw prime agricultural land being sacrificed for the construction of a grossly inefficient chemical plant to convert methane into petrol.
In my forties I started to recognise that the people we were supposed to look up to were corrupt, self-serving, and not particularly clever.
In my fifties I thought it would be possible to awaken the general populace to their predicament and put society back on track.
Now I recognise that most of those in power are self-serving liars, manipulators, thieves, and psychotic sociopaths etc., and that a very large sector of humanity is incapable of rational thought, especially when it comes to their own futures.
It has been quite a journey.
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And with that I’m going to take a breather.
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My experience follows from your ‘forties’, kevin. Everybody seemed more interested in avoiding responsibility so they didn’t get blamed, blocking other people, cheating, ripping off anything they could get away with, claiming credit for what others had done, etc. No honourable intelligent adults to be found anywhere, and it just keeps getting worse and worse.
As xraymike says, the paradigm of capitalism is selfish and corrupt and it produces selfish and corrupt individuals. When I read Dickens as kid, I thought those ridiculous caricatures he featured in his stories were absurd, nobody could really be like that, then I grow up to discover that the world is actually full of insane people straight out of Dickens, barking fucking mad from top to bottom.
You know, meeting smooth talking people in authority with respected positions, large salaries, staff, who don’t understand anything who presumably got that position because it was expedient as a favour to someone, and so long as the individual agrees with everyone and doesn’t rock the boat, they get paid to fill the space.
The worst of all, perhaps, is the realisation that some of the most powerful key positions are filled by utterly depraved individuals whose predilection for paedophilia or similar vices, means they can be blackmailed by those above. So they hold office not because of any ability or competence, but purely because of their guaranteed obedience to sinister powers who control them from behind the scenes.
The way I see it, the entire social structure, the power structure, the political system, in UK, is hopeless, it’s rotten, it’s serve’s nobody’s interests except a handful of very rich powerful landowners who own most of the country, and the City of London, which is a sort of parasite that hides inside London, but nobody can agree how to change it, most people don’t even care, or know what the heck is going on.
Every year the RSPB and BTO do their bird surveys and report how bird numbers are decreasing, and every year the National Farmers Union declares how wonderful it is that bird numbers are increasing because pesticides are doing such a marvelous job, and warn how all the farmers would go bankrupt and everybody would starve if any restrictions were put on what farmers do to ‘care for’ the countryside….
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I left the UK in 1974 (three-day week , miners’ strike and all that) thinking there must be a better place and a way to live. Came to NZ. I didn’t fully realise at the time that the empire had got here 150 years before me, and that it was all a similar rigged game, with psychotic sociopaths in charge and a loot-and-pollute economy. (That said, the population density here is much lower, the weather more temperate, and the environment a bit less degraded )
Your comment:
‘the entire social structure, the power structure, the political system, in UK, is hopeless, it’s rotten, it’s serve’s nobody’s interests except a handful of very rich powerful landowners who own most of the country, and the City of London, which is a sort of parasite that hides inside London, but nobody can agree how to change it, most people don’t even care, or know what the heck is going on.’
applies in Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Greece, India, Kenya….the Maldives: corruption and lies almost everywhere, rotten to the core, no accountability, and enveloped in an omnicidal culture of insanity
That does tend to indicate that ‘conspiracy theories’ about one world government, the Bilderbergers etc. have some credibility.
I wrote in my most recent book that becoming informed may help in understanding the very nature of evil. Not something any church I know of wants to deal with. .
Robert Newman did a brilliant stage show commentary on the history of oil in which, in reference to Peak Oil, he repeated: “No way out!”
It seems there is now no way out of any aspect of our collective predicament.
I keep working on improving my garden because it is the right thing to do.
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Ah Yes, Robert Newman’s ‘History of Oil’. I posted that show here:
Iran and Its Threat to the U.S. Dollar Hegemony
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yes; inability to process thought is strongly evident, tell them something,they hear what they expected to hear; put it in writing, it becomes something else. Just step aside & let them take the next cliff off the plateau.
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Just saw this article. More and more people talking about extinction.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/I-ve-Heard-of-Denial—B-by-Bob-Alexander-130524-124.html
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Here’s another one: http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/love-and-the-apocalypse/radical-is-the-new-normal
Robert Jenson
“Many associate “apocalypse” with the rapture-ranting that grows out of some interpretations of the Christian Book of Revelation (aka, the Apocalypse of John), but it’s helpful to remember that the word’s original meaning is not “end of the world.” “Revelation” from Latin and “apocalypse” from Greek both mean a lifting of the veil, a disclosure of something hidden, a coming to clarity. Speaking apocalyptically, in this sense, can deepen our understanding of the crises and help us see through the many illusions that powerful people and institutions create.
But there is an ending we have to confront. Once we’ve honestly faced the crises, then we can deal with what is ending—not all the world, but the systems that currently structure our lives. Life as we know it is, indeed, coming to an end.”
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Yes, I get the subjective impression that the term extinction is cropping up a lot in the last week or so, I don’t know how to do that google analytics thing, but there is a way to find out the frequency of usages on the net.
We truly are into the postmodern era, Guy Debord’s spectacle, when the chief executioner and torturer in a genocide of a million people, some say 3 million, becomes a movie star… goes perfectly with that cartoon juxtaposition of being simultaneously informed and retaining sanity. Perhaps not so much sanity as moral balance. When do snuff movies stop being shocking and start being normal entertainment ? I suppose that already happened and nobody even noticed.
http://www.monsangelorum.net/?topic=deadly-serious-3&paged=6#post-7437
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The capitalist network that runs the world
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed–the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html
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If humanity is to have a future then we the people have no choice but to take on and beat back the mega-corporations who currently control just about every aspect of life on this planet. We have to tactfully, masterfully, relentlessly learn how to bend them to our will and, if necessary, kill some of them off. Until we, The People, set the bar by wiping a criminal corporation out of existence, then there will be no justice and the corporations will only continue to act with impunity. And so our strategic imperative post-Occupy is to wield our coordinated energy – our movement’s ability to have simultaneous protests in far-flung locales – to bring down a transnational capitalist firm … One bastard at a time – from Goldman Sachs, to Monsanto.
Read more about what’s rumbling here: https://www.adbusters.org/blogs/tactical-arms-race.html
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I have a suspicion that all of us collapsians have always been, even when very young, concerned about things nobody else seemed to care about. We played the game of living a normal life growing up, but a part of us was always suspicious that the way we lived just couldn’t go on.
I was about 7 when, as I remember it, I kept bugging my father about what will happen when there are too many people and all the lands got too filled up with humans and buildings. My dad kept saying there was plenty of room….no problem. But that didn’t sit well with me. I knew population was growing, and would continue to do so. So how could this growing population not be a problem. SOMEDAY it was going to be a problem. This was years before Erhlich’s The Population Bomb. How could a rational person not realize the disaster in the making? It was hard to say just when the disaster would hit, but it was a fact that disaster would strike. I was a kid, and even then I realized that adults seemed to purposefully avoid reality.
There were many other issues that came up that told me modern life was inconsistent with a continuing living planet. But it is only recently that I could finally say we are hitting that exponentially increasing curve of almost everything, and it is so easily obvious now.
And yet…….still the adults are denying what is so clear.
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