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“I’m telling you that we’re putting our kids onto a global school bus that will with 98% probability end in a deadly crash.” ~ Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, Director Emeritus of Potsdam Institute
I recently saw the movie ‘Don’t Look Up’ after avoiding it since its release and I must say, that movie mirrors the tragic state of our society to a T. When you see Dr. Randall Mindy (DiCaprio) finally losing his cool, raging against a shallow, celebrity-idolizing, commercialized society on some glib TV talk show, this was not a stretch for the actor (an ardent environmental activist) who simply had to replace the oncoming fictional comet with the asteroid of abrupt climate change currently bearing down on us. At first, no one will listen to the scientist’s warning, not even the President of the United States Janie Orlean (Meryl Streep) who is more worried about her polling numbers and keeping her campaign contributors happy than being bothered by an existential threat to civilization. Once tech guru Peter Isherwell (Mark Rylance) plants a bug in the President’s ear about how the comet could be exploited for its trillions of dollars worth of rare earth minerals, then all bets are off for deflecting the oncoming catastrophe. The creepy Techno-Utopist Isherwell reflects our own society’s blind worship of technology and consumerism as the answer to all its ills, when in reality they are only further alienating us from the natural world that underpins our survival. Throughout the movie, there are beautiful clips of nature that briefly flash across the screen, reminding me of what we are losing in our ongoing sixth mass extinction. Modern man and the havoc he is wreaking on the planet is happening in a microsecond when viewed in geologic time scales, but humans have trouble seeing it because we live an ephemeral existence, easily inured to an ever impoverished world.
Labeling the comet’s collision course with Earth as mere fear-mongering, politicians and TV talking heads manage to politicize the threat amongst the population, hence the title of the movie. Throngs of mindless people attending political rallies while wearing trucker caps with the slogan ‘Don’t Look Up’ reminded me of scenes from the MAGA crowd in thrall to their grift-scheming conman. Those who speak too much about the reality of the approaching comet are ziptied, blinded with a hood over their head, hauled off to an undisclosed location, and compelled to stay quiet by the authorities. In our real world, a fate much worse than that awaits those who oppose fossil fuel companies, miners, loggers, and others who are destroying the planet. Only when the comet and its long tail become clearly visible in the sky do people take the threat seriously, but by then it is too late. Back to reality, there’s no indication that such a tipping point in public consciousness has changed our trajectory towards ecological disintegration and collapse of civilization. Near the end of the movie as the planet-killing comet is colliding with Earth, Dr. Mindy’s family and a few of his colleagues are holding hands at their last supper and Dr. Mindy says, “We really did have everything, didn’t we?” The same can be said of what we are losing in today’s unfolding anthropogenic mass extinction. A thousand species a day, each a product of eons of evolution and designed for a specific purpose, being permanently erased from this planet along with any sort of stable and predictable climate means we are trashing Eden and descending into the hellscape depicted in Bosch’s Garden of Earthly Delights. This most recent study confirms past warnings:
“Drastically increased rates of species extinctions and declining abundances of many animal and plant populations are well documented, yet some deny that these phenomena amount to mass extinction,” said Robert Cowie, lead author of the study, in a press release. “This denial is based on a highly biased assessment of the crisis which focuses on mammals and birds and ignores invertebrates, which of course constitute the great majority of biodiversity.”…“Dedicated conservation biologists and conservation agencies are doing what they can, focused mainly on threatened birds and mammals, among which some species may be saved from the extinction that would otherwise ensue,” the paper said. “But we are pessimistic about the fate of most of the Earth’s biodiversity, much of which is going to vanish without us ever knowing of its existence.”…The researchers write that it is crucial to fight against the crisis and manipulating it is an abrogation of moral responsibility.
Of course the ones in charge, blinded by their greedy dream to profit from an oncoming disaster, surreptitiously escape Earth on a rocket ship, cryogenically preserved until they reach a distant Earth-like planet in the Goldilocks Zone of another solar system. This colonization of some other habitable planet by Earth-bound humans is a fetish amongst techno-optimists and futurists, but it is a pipe-dream not only because it is impossible due to basic biological constraints and technological infeasibility but also for the simple reason that if we cannot keep our house in order here on the planet that gave birth to us, we don’t deserve another chance. And for God’s sake, can Elon Musk stop ranting that humans have to get off Earth because all life will be snuffed out after the sun theoretically expands into a giant red star five billion years from now? Just as in the movie, our tech demigods will lead us over the cliff while planning their own getaway to a private underground bunker or second homes far away in some distant country. It is frightening to think that we are only seeing the beginning of this unfolding global ecological apocalypse that will affect every living thing on Earth. Nearly all past mass extinctions have occurred due to a disruption of the carbon cycle, only now it is happening at a rate of speed multiple times faster than previous ones and with humans serving as the architect of their own demise. In the last 500 million years, across 6 mass extinctions and the countless rise and fall of global temperatures and sea levels, the only time the climate changed faster was 66 million years ago when Earth got hit by a 10km asteroid that killed off 75% of all species. Mass extinction events turn freshwater bodies into toxic soup, and we’re seeing the same thing happen today. But fret not, technology will save us and stock prices are up this week, not to mention that our social media rankings are going gangbusters.

It has been said that when civilizations begin to die, they go insane. Perhaps Stoicism and Buddhism are the most useful philosophies in an age where the future is bleak and no one seems to be facing reality. After half a century of dire warnings from noted scientists, numerous Climate Action Inaction Summits (rigged to fail), revelations of decades-old climate studies from Fossil Fuel Corporations themselves proving all along that they knew, and worsening extreme weather events as well as the planet’s quickly disappearing cryosphere (what happens in the Arctic does not stay in the Arctic), here is where we stand today:
The world’s insatiable appetite for electricity is setting up a climate disaster
A report published Friday by the International Energy Agency found that global demand for electricity surged 6% in 2021, fueled by a colder winter and the dramatic economic rebound from the pandemic. That drove both prices and carbon emissions to new records.
The growth in demand was particularly intense in China, where it jumped by about 10%…
…Electricity generated by renewables grew by 6% globally last year, while coal-fired generation leaped 9% due to high demand and skyrocketing natural gas prices, which made it look like a more attractive option.
Carbon dioxide emissions from power generation rose 7% as a result, reaching an all-time high after declining the previous two years…
…The IEA found that emissions from the power sector will “remain around the same level from 2021 to 2024,” even though they need to decline “sharply” for the world to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius and avoid the worst effects of climate change.
As physicist Tim Garrett has pointed out, “Any new energy source adds impetus to the conversion of raw resources into the stuff of civilization, accelerating growth and future demands for all energy types. Renewables add to the consumption, they do not replace.” Also, gains in energy efficiency are simply supplanted by more growth.
Keep in mind that even if we were to magically reduce our CO2 emissions overnight, the opposite of what is happening, we will never again see the climate we grew up in. It is never returning. Realize that the current level of CO2 equivalent GHGs already exceeds 500 ppm. The increased pace of extreme weather events we are now getting from climate change is shocking even those scientists who predicted it. The Arctic is greening with the treeline advancing northward 40 to 50 meters every year from what was once an annual increase of only a few centimeters. Adding yet another pernicious feedback loop to the climate crisis, beavers are moving into the warming Arctic in greater numbers and radically transforming the landscape with their dams, further accelerating the thaw of permafrost that releases methane and carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. A worrying new study shows Earth’s ability to reflect solar radiation is weakening — as the ocean is heating it is failing to generate clouds that reflect back sunlight. Astoundingly, half of that weakening has happened in the last four years:
“The albedo drop was such a surprise to us when we analyzed the last 3 years of data – many scientists hoped that a warmer Earth may lead to more clouds and higher albedo which would then help to moderate warming and balance the climate system But this shows the opposite is true”
If this trend of Earth dimming due to climate change continues, climate models will have to (once more) be significantly revised to include this additional net warming. We are headed for a Miocene climate during which the Antarctic ice volume was half of what it is today and the Arctic Ocean was ice-free in winter. Sea levels were 130 feet or higher and temperatures were about 5 to 8ºC warmer. Our ancestors were apes at that time. The European shoreline was 120 miles inland from today’s coast and dense swamp-forests resembling modern Louisiana clogged coasts and estuaries in Denmark and Germany. Nothing living in its region today is adapted to what will come. Remember those trees in the Pacific Northwest that sizzled in the heatwave of last year’s summer? A new study paints a dire picture for their future, as well as ours:
“By some estimates, it’s probably the largest scorch event in history,” Oregon State University researcher Christopher Still told OPB’s “Think Out Loud” on Monday. “I mean this is a new thing for us to be seeing on Earth, so it’s sort of a dubious milestone.”…
…“If this just keeps going, if these are happening every five or 10 years, it’s gonna be really grim I think for most of the forests of the Pacific Northwest.”
As the saying goes, “Lessons in life will be repeated until they are learned.” And so humans have yet to understand their place in the world, punch drunk on more than a century-long bacchanalia of fossil fuel burning. In the end, nature will put us in our place, and not in a good way. It is interesting to note that right around the peak of industrial civilization’s collapse, humans will have evidently lost their biological ability reproduce due to chemical pollution. We have saturated the Earth with so many and so much chemicals that we have breached another planetary boundary:
The cocktail of chemical pollution that pervades the planet now threatens the stability of global ecosystems upon which humanity depends, scientists have said.
Plastics are of particularly high concern, they said, along with 350,000 synthetic chemicals including pesticides, industrial compounds and antibiotics. Plastic pollution is now found from the summit of Mount Everest to the deepest oceans, and some toxic chemicals, such as PCBs, are long-lasting and widespread.
The study concludes that chemical pollution has crossed a “planetary boundary”, the point at which human-made changes to the Earth push it outside the stable environment of the last 10,000 years.
“There has been a fiftyfold increase in the production of chemicals since 1950 and this is projected to triple again by 2050,” said Patricia Villarrubia-Gómez, a PhD candidate and research assistant at the Stockholm Resilience Centre (SRC) who was part of the study team. “The pace that societies are producing and releasing new chemicals into the environment is not consistent with staying within a safe operating space for humanity.”
Pfft!!! Just another fancy-schmancy warning by some pedantic scientists for the world to ignore. No need to worry, we can live in hermetically sealed bubbles that filter out all that nasty stuff, can’t we? All of our socializing and entertainment take place indoors on digital screens anyway, doesn’t it? But wait, there’s more. The Doomsday Glacier is coming for us. The Thwaites Glacier is the size of Florida and it is cracking apart on the surface and melting from below, loosening its anchor on the undersea mountain that holds it in place. If this glacier goes, it could unleash much more ice from the West Antarctic ice sheet that is held in place behind it, causing an immediate and catastrophic effect (10 feet) of sea level rise. One scientist says it could go within a few years. This development falls in line with what another expert, Professor Harold R. Wanless, had said years ago about sea level rise and climate change—that sea level rise does not happen in a gradual and linear fashion but rather as sudden, large pulses. I blogged about him six years ago, and what he said back then in the context of what is happening now gives me chills:
…Subsequent ice melt was not a gradual acceleration and then deceleration process. Rather it was a series of very rapid pulses of sea level rise followed by pauses. These rapid pulses of rise, from three to thirty feet, were fast enough to leave drowned reefs, sandy barrier islands, tidal inlet deltas, and other coastal deposits abandoned across the continental shelf. That is what happens when climate change warms enough to destabilize some ice sheet sector. It rapidly disintegrates, resulting in a rapid rise.
Just a couple years ago, a study of ancient ice in the West Antarctic Ice Sheet showed that multiple meters of sea level rise occurred from less than 2ºC of warming at the beginning of the last interglacial period. As we are once again witnessing today, the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is highly sensitive to collapse from slight temperature increases.
Circling back to the movie I was discussing earlier, there is a scene in which junior astronomer and Ph.D. student Kate Dibiasky (Jennifer Lawrence) is with a group of disaffected youth who are discussing conspiracy theories regarding the global elite, and Dibiasky says in an exasperated voice, “You guys, the truth is way more depressing. They’re not even smart enough to be as evil as you’re giving them credit for.” Perhaps the truth is even more depressing than that. In the grand scheme of things, free will appears to be nothing more than a figment of our imagination. Like microbes proliferating in a Petri dish and dying off after overshooting their confines, humans are essentially replicating the same process albeit on a planetary scale. Evidently, we are biologically programmed to eventually crash and burn. Just as with all other species, humans have the imperative to expand their numbers, exploiting all resources until stopped by environmental constraints, and those limits to growth are fast approaching as we speak.


Excellent article, thank you, Mike! We are about to go over the cliff it looks like. It is a pleasure to know that there is someone over there who understands. Your articles make me feel very good, I know I am not alone who understands this.
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I initially misread this: “A thousand species a day, each a product of eons of evolution with a specific purpose, being permanently erased from this planet …” as suggesting that evolution has a purpose rather than how each species fits within an ecological niche and plays a specific role.
Also saw the movie and thought it’s impossible to satirize satire, which is what the modern world has become: all farce with tiny oases of sanity. What disappointed me most was how the scientist was temporarily seduced by the empty glamor of celebrity and betrayed his wife, family, and profession before coming to his senses just in time for the end.
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I think I will reword that sentence.
A central character with weaknesses that he finally overcomes made the story better, I think. Dr. Mindy was supposed to die a very mundane death alone, according to the tech guru’s crystal ball. He proved them wrong.
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I also very much appreciate your excellent writing and the research behind it. I’ve stopped reading about this stuff for my mental health, but appreciate your update in my email today.
Our direction has continued unchanged my entire life (I’m 51), only the magnitude has increased. The only hope I see is for Covid to nibble away at the human enterprise until it collapses. Maybe it’ll be like the Mesoamerican collapse post-European invasion–population falls enough that the biosphere can recover. I still hold out the hope that if we just took our boot off her neck. Nature could come back, at least in some flooded, hotter form.
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Smart, I need to take a step back too because this shit is wearing on me lol. I think 18 is too young to be worrying about whether I’m going to die in 20-30 years, but to be fair I’ve been studying collapse since I was 15 and I’m still here.
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For the REALLY long view I’ve been enjoying this fun little toy (takes a while to load)
https://climatearchive.org/index.html
Use the icons on the left turn layers on and off (I turn off everything except terrain and temperature) and use the timeline at the bottom to rapidly scroll through the geologic ages and also to click and zoom in on individual epochs.
It’s sobering to think that hominid like creatures have only been running around for 3 million years or so, a tiny sliver of the timeline.
I like to compare this with other visualizations of what we know about the Phanerozoic Eon over the last 500 million years. Such as this temperature timeline:
https://www.climate.gov/media/11332
From the article “What’s the hottest Earth has ever been?”
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-hottest-earths-ever-been
Or this mass extinction timeline:
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/media/mass-extinctions/
For another view on mass extinction I really like this visualization of all the biomass on Earth:
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-the-biomass-of-earth-in-one-graphic/
It would be interesting to see how this has changed over time, especially in the last 50 years or so. Because of our “shifting baselines” cognitive bias it is difficult for people to go outside and see just how impoverished our planet has become.
Even in just the last few years around my rural home I’ve seen huge flocks of migrating birds disappear and I’ve seen the ocean beaches become almost completely barren of life. And that’s just in the last decade!
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I agree…the ongoing Sixth Mass Extinction is very obvious. Industrial civilization is literally rendering the planet sterile. Just for your information, the leading cause of wild life extinctions is human agriculture. Not climate change. Over 50% of the land on this planet is directly used for cultivating crops and raising livestock. That is equivalent to all of land area of the entire North and South American continents combined. Even if climate change isn’t being factored into the equation, the overwhelming majority of wild life will still go extinct because of human agriculture. Habitat destruction, habitat fragmentation, invasive species, poaching and other activities directly linked to agriculture is the single leading cause of the 6th Mass extinction. Climate change mostly kills the small organisms I.e. insects and phytoplankton at the base of the food chain. The larger organisms I.e. reptiles and mammals are mostly killed by human agriculture.
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Always refreshing to get a new post from you, Xray Mike. Not many others write about it as well as you do. As others have commented, it helps to know I am not alone in how I see our trajectory and also as yet another reminder to appreciate every precious moment. To be grateful for my life, the woods, the deer, to remember to take in the music and poetry and art that feed me. Collapse is accelerating. Most people can sense it, even if they aren’t aware of the details that you summarize so well.
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Excellent comments after an excellent post.
There is obviously nothing we either as individuals or as a collective can do to arrest this final detonation of the supersystem, but it may comfort others to know that upon death, all worries and responsibilities seem to cease.
Enjoy the ride, and when it’s well and truly over for you (and as of this week there is still an industrial extraction and production regime going for the benefit of fossil fuel lottery winners), check out and be done. Life, in all of its absurd bounteous glory, until then.
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As long as there’s some surplus energy around, humans like their completely organic cousins will produce more and more dissipative structures until the energy is no longer in surplus. It can be another skyscraper in Dubai, a private jet, a house, a car etc. Ecosystems do the same things but can reach climax communities because the sun rises every day and rebuilds the always present natural decay with clean energy. When the long night of energy scarcity hits humans the decay will begin and will not stop until system failure occurs. But who can reason with organisms whose conception of reality is built with blocks of dopamine and opioids.
I wonder if future anthropologists will shake the human skulls they find littering the landscape, listening carefully for the brain chips inside. The chips may even squeak a few words in their best computer voice: “Crypto, gold, silver, crypto, gold, silver……………………..
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Hey James, Happy New Year, we’ve missed you.
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Thanks GWB. I ran out of quarters for my jukebox of doom, my family has had the Omicron and my aunt died in the nursing home. Personal doom, planetary doom. Doom is doom. It’s what’s for dinner – for the next few hundred years.
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I’m sorry to hear about your family and your aunt. My mother-in-law died of Covid, but she was 101, something would have got her at that age. We’re good little munchkins and are vaxxed, boosted, masked up and all that — but then I work for the federal government, so there wasn’t an option. We just did our bit to reduce global food insecurity by cooking up a bag of frozen potstickers whose sell-by date was 2015. Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.
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Food insecurity may be the next pressure point. No food bank for you without a vax pass. Better dole out those potstickers, one per family member, no sauce.
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All the best, James. (I miss your blog.)
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Thanks. I actually got my inspiration for writing a blog from this one. I even borrowed the same theme. I’ll blog a little more soon enough, but as I watch the “cutting edge” try to fund and create markets for their high-tech projects, all I can say is Homo sapiens – RIP. Our technologists are as blind and greedy as a bunch of self-organizing molecules. The time for optimizing the humans for their roles in the technological system is at hand. With a little genetic engineering they can be made so much better and we’ll need so fewer of them. The MPP that once guided their individual lives will be completely subsumed into the goals of the larger organism. They will be monitored and controlled to make sure they are happy in their work.
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James, I always thought my tireless encouragement & selfless guidance was the inspiration for your blog? No
Oh right, it was xray mike who was always complimenting your writing ability & asking for a guest essay. Actually a bunch of us praised your writing – we were the wind beneath your wings dude.
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The only humans that may come out of this bottleneck relatively unscathed are the Neolithic tribespeople on North Sentinel Island, in the Andamans – you know, the ones who’ve been living on that island for 50,000 years and who violently repel all outsiders and kill them, like that delusional American missionary. Can’t hardly blame them… So far, the Indian government has done a decent job keeping most moderns away. Hopefully, their island won’t be overrun by starving, armed technological apes looking for any untouched natural resources.
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When the sea surface temperature reaches 35C or so, and the air temp is 35C or more, they will experience wet bulb temperatures >35C and live about 5 hours. So, no they won’t make it.
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Not just unbearable heat, but the rise of sea levels will render such an island uninhabitable.
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Excellent post.
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Thank you for your post. From my perspective we are entering a whirlpool of destruction that has been given to us by our alienation both mentally and spiritually to the nations of other creatures. We have spurned them as kin and indeed even one another as kin and what has unfolded us before our unknowing and unbelieving eyes is the result……..so sad…
https://pantheistheritage1.wordpress.com
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The trends in semen parameters are truly horrifying. Well; would be horrifying if we weren’t already doomed. Failing to breed as a cause of extinction is so much gentler than many other problems we face.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6279498/
There are alternative results
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09735070.2010.11886381
But more show significant declines
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-67707-x
Phthalates do seem to be a prime suspect, along with increasing obesity rates.
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The masses will never be convinced that human overshoot is the cause of our predicament. We are too important to screw up.
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I had been following obituaries & never saw xraymike’s name, clicked here & OMG! he’s been found. 😉
Scientist talk about extinction & they very seldom mention the Clever Ape mammal that is subject to all the same laws as all living creatures. Guy McPherson is still talking about there not being a human on the planet in 2026. Everyone can clear their calendar for 2026. “What are we going to do?” A voice from the realm of reality answers; “Die”.
Hope everyone remembers to “be fruitful and multiple” & overpopulate the planet.Every child that parents produce, increases the parents individual CO2 footprint by 50%. The Ga. Guide Stones suggest that the global population’s perpetual balance should be at 500,000,000. ~8,000,000,000 monkey minds & we call ourselves civilized.
It’s a great time to be a 73 old childless codger.I’ve done my share of stupid stuff, so I feel qualified thru my experience to point out how stupid others are & it’s relatively easy.
First 40 seconds for those who haven’t seen this. Someone should have told our special parents.
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Well done, excellent installment. Been wondering when you would turn up. My hope is that a remnant of our species survive. Perhaps a vain hope, but humans can be beautiful.
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22 minutes for the ~8,000,000,000 special Clever Ape children.
We all die, dying dumb is not a virtue.
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Global coal consumption last year was a record high.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/far-from-dying-the-coal-industry-is-actually-booming/2022/01/28/7fb02ff0-8019-11ec-8cc8-b696564ba796_story.html
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And the only thing that might reduce fossil fuel consumption / GHG emissions is the collapse of industrial civilization. I seriously doubt humans will voluntarily reduce fossil fuel consumption because of the lack of any alternatives to fossil fuels.
Here is a good article about the topic of fossil fuel consumption, entitled ” Energy and Human Evolution” by David Price
https://dieoff.com/page137.htm
This article was written in 1995…almost 27 years ago, but everything written in it is still relevant today. Because industrial civilization is just as dependent on fossil fuels in 2022 as it was in 1995. Why? Because the laws of thermodynamics haven’t changed.
Here are a few notable quotes from that article.
“But the exhaustion of fossil fuels, which supply three quarters of this energy, is not far off, and no other energy source is abundant and cheap enough to take their place. A collapse of the earth’s human population cannot be more than a few years away. If there are survivors, they will not be able to carry on the cultural traditions of civilization, which require abundant, cheap energy. It is unlikely, however, that the species itself can long persist without the energy whose exploitation is so much a part of its modus vivendi.
The human species may be seen as having evolved in the service of entropy, and it cannot be expected to outlast the dense accumulations of energy that have helped define its niche. Human beings like to believe they are in control of their destiny, but when the history of life on Earth is seen in perspective, the evolution of Homo sapiens is merely a transient episode that acts to redress the planet’s energy balance.”
It basically states that humans were put on the Earth for the sole purpose of consuming the fossil fuels that have been accumulating in the Earth’s crust over eons.
On the topic of anthropogenic climate change and the 6th Mass extinction, it states:
“If the passage of Homo sapiens across evolution’s stage significantly alters Earth’s atmosphere, virtually all living things may become extinct quite rapidly. But even if this does not happen, the rise and fall of Homo sapiens will eliminate many species”
As clarification, the 6th Mass Extinction is primarily caused by human agriculture and Human population growth. Even if climate change wasn’t an issue (which it clearly is), human agriculture /civilization will still cause the extinction of most life forms on this planet. Of course, the addition of catastrophic, human-induced climate change will be the final nail in the coffin for most species on this planet (including humans themselves). So basically, what I am saying is that agriculture is the primary cause of the ongoing 6th Mass extinction…but with catastrophic climate change added to the mix , the 6th Mass extinction is made even worse
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Have a read of Dilworth’s :Too Smart for our own good” if you want.The human societies that don’t transgress the requirements for multi-millenial existence
1 . No cities (resource sinks,convert cyclic systems into lineal systems)
2. No mining of minerals or metal smelting
3. No agriculture
So : Hunter-gatherer . Hunter -horticulturist . Nomadic pastoralism.
We’re here. We did develop metal smelting,mining, agriculture,and cities. When you combine
destructive technologies,unlimited energy,and a culture that is unconcerned about the
damage wrought on the natural world, this is where we end up.
Ernst Mayr was right. Intelligence is a lethal mutation.
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The problem is…the humans that “develop” civilization (I.e. cities, agriculture, metal smelting/mining and other “benefits” of civilization) eventually end up conquering anyone who didn’t develop civilization fast enough. The article on the front page of dieoff.com mentions the topic of “Evolution Under the Maximum Power Principal” , and it states that ecological overshoot (I.e. overpopulation and overconsumption) is inevitable for human beings. Which is why literally every corner of the globe is now dominated by industrial civilization. Because the people that didn’t overshoot their environment and didn’t decide to conquer the rest of the human/natural world, eventually got conquered by the people that overshot their environment’s carrying capacity and developed sufficient technology to conquer everyone else. The people that lived in balance with nature got conquered I.e. the indigenious/tribal people of the world. And the people that destroyed nature did the conquering I.e. the industrialized world.
At the end of the day, everyone suffers from civilization because the indigenous people no longer have any access to the resources to live sustainably with nature. And the so-called “civilized” people are also screwed because they possess no ability to survive without industrial civilization.
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If you’re interested, you can read some comments I placed a few days ago on Tim
Morgan’s site. Yes, the ‘ energy-limited’ humans societies living within the sloar energy flow constraints couldn’t compete with this “energy-unlimited” civilization.
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Someone in the comments section of that link said “global human population might reach 10 to 11 billion people by the end of this century” …jeez, I can’t imagine how hellish the Earth will be when there are 2 to 3 billion more people on this planet. I am pretty sure you are well-aware of how overpopulated the Earth already is…I can’t imagine how overcrowded the Earth will be when/if the population reaches 10 billion plus people. Of course, it is a big IF human population reaches that milestone. The global human population bubble might collapse before the 9 billion people mark is reached. Regardless, it is fairly obvious that global human population will collapse even if not a single human is born from this point onwards…there is already way too many people on this planet. Especially, high consumption per capita people I.e. Homo Collosus.
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Here is another article that addresses the issue of CoIC. It explains four reasons why industrial civilization will suddenly (and catastrophically collapse) and not just slowly decline into a “steady state economy” . https://www.resilience.org/stories/2020-08-10/four-reasons-civilization-wont-decline-it-will-collapse/
To be honest, I’ve known for a long time that CoIC was inevitable. The decline of industrial civilization has already been in process for the past two to three decades. In this decade and the next decade, the chances of a sudden and catastrophic collapse is becoming increasingly inevitable.
And I doubt capitalism will miraculously go away. It will become increasingly catabolic. I don’t think capitalism will ever go away because like this blog once mentioned, “capitalism holds too tight of a grip on modern man” .
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Thanks. It is a good article. You’re right about the population too.
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Unsurprisingly, most people still think that technology and “free markets” will save humanity and the environment even though this belief is wrong. The rate of technological innovation has already been in steep decline during the past couple of decades. The only major technological innovation made in the 21st century is the development of telecommunication devices. I mean, other than the development of the smartphone, what has fundamentally changed in the past 27 years since 1995? Nothing. Still powered by the same fossil energy sources I.e. coal, petroleum and natural gas, as 1995, in 2022. Pathway dependence is undeniable. Nothing can replace the edifice built by fossil fuels, for as long as industrial civilization exists, FFs must continue to be used.
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4.Live within the constraints of the solar energy flow,using plants as the solar energy
collectors (self-replicating,do not require mining and manufacturing for their existence )
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There is no celestial organiser who ” put humans on Earth in the service of entropy”.
We evolved the intelligence to deveop ,by a series of steps, the technologies to exploit
the energy of sequestered sunlight. The teleological argument is nonsense. There is no celestial organiser who is distressed about the temporary accumulation of energy on this planet. The energy from the sun would be dissipated to space eventually,whether humans exist or not. A minuscule proportion of it is just here on a temporary waystation.
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I don’t think anyone was implying that there is a “higher power” (or God) that put humans on Earth for the service of entropy. I think the article is just saying that the evolution of a species capable of “dissipating fossil energy” was inevitable because life evolves to exploit new energy gradients. Given all of the fossil fuel energy stored up over the eons, it was inevitable that a species capable of dissipating that energy would eventually evolve to exploit that energy.
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“The sheer scale of the debt is almost impossible for ordinary imagination to grasp. But to put it in perspective, at $30 trillion it is now $7 trillion more than the entire gross domestic product of the United States—the total value of goods and services produced in a year—which stands at around $23 trillion.”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/02/03/pers-f03.html
More printed fiat currency is the simple solution. FMTT!
” I am merely pointing out that this parade is taking place in a torrential downpour on the way to biblical flood…”
https://zensecondlife.blogspot.com/
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I just saw, out of the corner of my eye, a notification for this article in my email in the ‘social’ section that I click on maybe 2-3 times a year.
Very thorough, insightful & well written – you’re still the champ xraymike & I appreciate
these update articles.
You covered or mentioned many issues. About 20 times I felt like pausing & commenting but that would break my rule.
There needs to be an amendment to the mass extinctions list because we are in & causing the 7th mass extinction.
The findings of the research for a previously unknown mass extinction are slow to come out. It’s not just the general public who are ignorant of it. Many scientists seem unaware too. Perhaps its because it’s another hothouse mass extinction triggered by volcanism burning carbon & puking out shit tons of greenhouse gasses leading to runaway global roasting.
Poor Elizabeth Kolbert is going to have do some editing on her book title & everywhere in the book it says 6th.
September 16, 2020……………………
Discovery of a new mass extinction
“It’s not often a new mass extinction is identified; after all, such events were so devastating they really stand out in the fossil record. In a new paper, published today in Science Advances, an international team has identified a major extinction of life 233 million years ago that triggered the dinosaur takeover of the world. The crisis has been called the Carnian Pluvial Episode. ”
“The eruptions were so huge, they pumped vast amounts of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide, and there were spikes of global warming”.
https://phys.org/news/2020-09-discovery-mass-extinction.html
Huge volcanic eruptions 233 million years ago pumped carbon dioxide, methane and water vapour into the atmosphere. This series of violent explosions, on what we now know as the west coast of Canada, led to massive global warming. Our new research has revealed that this was a planet-changing mass extinction event that killed off many of the dominant tetrapods and heralded the dawn of the dinosaurs.
https://cosmosmagazine.com/earth/earth-sciences/discovery-of-a-new-mass-extinction/
Hmmm global warming extincts earth’s dominant species. Can’t happen here.
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“The pace of biodiversity loss today is unprecedented and was not even reached during major extinctions in the past. Damage being done in the next decades to centuries will take millions of years to undo. Findings suggest prospects for the planet are dire.”
https://www.studyfinds.org/human-drivenn-mass-extinction-damage/
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I totally appreciated “Don’t Look Up” too xraymike79.
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Drill! Baby! Drill!
“Our youth are lied to from birth.”
The Clever Apes lie about everything. There is no Santa Clause,Easter Bunny,Tooth Fairy, supply side trickle down(I’m still waiting) or proof for any religious delusions the shallow minded faithfully believe.
The truth is not always pleasant & it’s pissing me off. 😉
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If it’s an unfixable dilemma as he says in his post ( and it is ),why does he waste his time writing to M.P. s demanding that they fix it ? What does he expect them to do ?
Tell their constituemnts that we either have a die-off now,or later in the century,and that they are in favour of a die-off now ? Sounds like a real vote -winner. We’re fucked.he
might as well just relax and accept it. Don’t have kids,though. They’ll thank you for the wise decision.
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There is nothing like lying to the people one loves the most,their children.
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It’s hard to focus on shit that don’t matter when so much of it don’t matter or soon won’t.
The Infantilization of American Adults
41,143 views • Nov 8, 2018 • –Simon Gottschalk, Professor of Sociology at the University of Nevada Las Vegas and author of the book “The Terminal Self” joins David to discuss the infantilization of western culture
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This puerile behavior also includes canned slogans like “Black (Criminal) Lives Matter” and “Defund the Police,” which created nothing but a chronic crime wave in Portland, Oregon, whose residents finally got a clue (criminals of all colors are nasty) and demanded more police protection.
Cops were never the problem, just street thugs who adopted a superficial cause while ignoring their own rotten natures. People who think in slogans and dismiss actual evidence are the main problem, but some topics can’t be touched, which is why I was booted from un-denial.com for noting BLM’s “social justice” ruse. They’re essentially a cop-hater group that ignores black-on-black violence, which grew out the 1960s welfare brood mentality (fatherless families lost control of sons).
The white guilt/fragility crowd, of which you seem to be a part, is equally infantile, unable to face the full scope of human nature. There could be ten times the racism in America but crime would still need to be fought, and fools of all races who resist arrest would still die. Making everything about identity, rather than content of character, has strangled actual justice and critical thinking.
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The white guilt/fragility crowd, of which I seem to be a part of?
WTF??
Thanks for the perfect, absolutely perfect example of an American adult infant getting self-triggered & throwing a temper tantrum rant based on the title of a video you clearly did not watch. A video that does not speak of white guilt, BLM or any of your other nonsensical rage-rantings.
White guilt is an American invention. Only Americans would suggest they can & should carry the guilt of people long dead. To me it’s just more American exceptionalism & attention seeking. You don’t hear Italians talking about Roman Empire guilt & they killed Jesus & stole all the Jews gold. Hell, they could milk that for centuries if they were so inclined.
The self-triggered, off topic rants are another American attention seeking gimmick. It’s pathological.
Also, I’m not the owner of the undenial blog, I don’t frequent that blog, I have nothing to do with that blog & don’t care why you Think you got banned.
Now go to your room & do your homework. You’re grounded until doomsday child.
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This refers to a debate on un-denial.com where you went full mouth-frothing SJW when I dared to mention that blacks cause many of their own problems in recent decades, and that Africa is innately low-tech for reasons that have nothing to do with white privilege. I then got cancelled by the moderator after sticking with evidence.
It’s a site that claims to remove all reality-blinders, so it was surprising and irritating. Wokeism has made people afraid to go full “red pill.” They’re forced to shut up whenever someone non-white is the actual source of trouble. The 1994 Rwandan genocide, for example, must have just been blacks “expressing frustration.”
There’s been a major crime problem among American blacks, independent of persistent racism, though it feeds negative “stereotypes.” This crime affects other blacks most severely. but you (who claim to be an un-denialist) ignore it by ascribing things to me that I never stood for. See John McWhorter’s excellent book, Woke Racism.
Go hang out between Killingsworth and Failing (in Portland) for awhile, and see if you like what wokeism has wrought. Too many people just want to complain about the world and only blame whites for its problems, rather than human nature.
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One of my biggest irritations with your type is that you’re dragging “social justice” into environmentalism, refusing to see that the poor and “oppressed” are also causing major environmental damage. Like termites whittling down a home, they do it by sheer numbers, not individual wealth. The math keeps adding up, but if they can ride the “oppressed” train they’re taken off the hook.by phony environmentalists.
A big effect of that belief system is overpopulation denial, with the notion that only “western consumption” can be the problem. In reality, the global marketplace makes many poor people players in depletion. “Oppressed” poachers in Africa feeding Asians’ taste for exotic animal parts is an example.
I’m not expecting a logical reply to this, just putting it on record.
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RENO
The Biggest Little Cancer In The World
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Dry January: Reno goes a month with no rain for the first time in nearly 130 years
After experiencing its wettest October on record when close to 3in of rain fell in two days, the area is now facing the other extreme
“Reno doesn’t stand alone. Across the American west, a region that’s been mired in drought, autumn rains wreaked havoc. The city of Los Angeles broke a rainfall record set in 1936 and officials had to rescue residents and vehicles out of the surging Los Angeles River. Areas of Arizona received up to 400% of average precipitation during its 2021 monsoon season. Rain poured on the parched Pacific north-west in November causing floods and flows. Creeks that been reduced to a trickle in the preceding months overran their banks in northern California while record snowfall measured 214 in in the central Sierra as December came to a close.
The super-storms were enough to recharge some dwindling reservoirs, bringing huge swaths of the west out of the exceptional drought classification. The state of California finally escaped the worst drought categories (as deemed by the US Drought Monitor) at the end of January. But even with the deluge, the region is now bracing for yet another prolonged period without precipitation.
Along with Reno’s record, other cities across the west broke dryness records, including Las Vegas and Sacramento.
“Much of the region has experienced alternating periods of wet and dry weather since the water year began on October 1, 2021,” wrote Brad Rippey, a meteorologist with the US Department of Agriculture in the latest US Drought Monitor summary for the west last week.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/02/reno-nevada-rain-january-drought
From one extreme to another. Bi-polar weather.
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https://www.media.uzh.ch/en/Press-Releases/2022/Warm-Winters.html
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If the earth is flat,why don’t we have pictures of the edge with the oceans’ water falling into space?
It’s not the elected officials fault,it’s the voters that placed them in office.
Want to get one’s attention,get into their wallet. I boycott those whose political delusions don’t represent me. Power of the purse can turn bottom lines to red & there is no real defense since the opposition can’t identify those that are boycotting their businesses. “What happened to our customer base?” My delusion is that more would boycott. Which is more important one’s political delusions or the dollar?
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There is nowhere to discuss the ominous topic of collapse of industrial civilization (CoIC) besides this site. I think YouTube’s AI is actively censoring any comments that expose CoIC or any serious discussion of the corruption of our socio-economic system. The police state seems to be actively clamping down on any serious dissent against TPTB (The Powers That Be). This has been the case for the past two years since the covid-19 lockdown.
I suspect the elites are engaging in extra online censorship because they are afraid that “too many” people might wake up to the truth of the impending doom of industrial civilization. The fact that the elites are now actively censoring the truth of CoIC on most social media sites indicates that they probably know CoIC is imminent. Censorship of certain topics (like racism and questionable pornography) is acceptable, but to censor the truth (no matter unpleasant it maybe) might be crossing the line.
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If your going to listen to a rant, let it be an interesting one.
Here’s Why We’re All Doomed (Excerpt)
“In a deranged world, mental illness is positively reinforced. The environment no longer provides health cues or unscripted exposure therapy.
In such a dystopian bedlam, narcissism is a value, self-harming with sex and substances is empowering fun, and magical thinking is the only touted strategy.
The contemporary war between the genders is a private case of this mass insanity. The locus of intimacy has shifted: it is no longer associated with sex – only with talking and with light touching.
Avoiding or postponing sex now signals being serious about a partner one finds likable or loves, a state of sobriety, and having committed to a relationship.
Men and women hate each other, true. But everyone hate everybody else. Ideology trumps science. Power is the holy grail, not love. Victimhood supplanted dignity.
Self-centredness has utterly uprooted communality. Aggressive, even violent tribalism and partisanship rip us asunder.
Higher education teaches nothing useful and inculcates self-harm and infantilism in its tender charges. Students have taken over, as in replay of Mao’s Cultural Revolution.
In such a toxic cesspool writ large, certain mental proclivities – such as owning a dark triad personality – have become positive adaptations, something to aspire to.”
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Canadians play the runaway climate change blame game.
Warnings go back to the 1980’s. In 1988 when James Hansen presented the first of many serious ‘no doubt’ warning to the US senate it went global (TV, newspapers & magazines) and it’s never stopped.
Around the same time, the high priests of the Megacancer (eg:Thomas Friedman) were tirelessly preaching the Globalization gospel it went global (TV, newspapers, magazines & books) and it’s never stopped. Most of the plebs & politicians long for a return to those 1990’s days pre: 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq , GFC, Fukushima…decline decline decline & people losing their shit.
The notion of singling out people for the latest record smashing, infrastructure smashing AGW Jacked disaster is a joke. They should be punished because they were warned & did nothing? That’s what the entire fucking species did & is still doing.
I bet many of the digital toys we’ve bought on our globalization shopping spree have helped make denial less painful. I’m not a video game person, but I’ve gone up yo a week re-watching an entire year from my youth – movies, tv shows, interviews, live performances of my fave bands – 1977 – Star Wars, Slap Shot, Close Encounters…on & on lost in the past.
Everyone is to blame. No one is to blame. The humans love their scapegoats & witch hunts.
What the B.C. government knew about the flood threat | Come hell… B.C. under water
In Come hell… B.C. under water we examine the devastation in B.C. after catastrophic flooding and look at how the provincial government should have seen this coming.
I saw it coming. The floods. The millions of high energy consumer citizens who lived in denial for decades & now that it’s consequences time they want blame & bailouts.
If you cut them a big cheque, many will rebuild in the very same spot.
And people living in other places with good odds of getting wiped out by a climate jacked event will tell you to fuck off if you tell them they need to move. The Canadian government has bought out some folks. They move to similar diggs or the burbs. They think it was a one off blip & they just need to relocate & it’ll be BAU for the rest of their lives. I think people will only get real after that way of life is gone for a lengthy period. As long there is food, many people can live without electricity & personal automobiles. People in other parts of the world live like that. Plague and/or famine are the big population reducers. Drought is the #1 all time producer of famine, except for the 20th century where ideology was the #1 producer.
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In 2013 there was a major flood event in Calgary & Southern Alberta. At the time it became the costliest disaster in Canadian history….until 2016 when Fort McMurray burnt the fuck down [90,000 people evacuated] & claimed the crown.
2 climate change Jacked record smashing events within a 3 year period & it totally went over the Albertan’s heads, which are not very high since their heads are up their asses. Their main response was, ‘yabut muslim terrorists is bad & tar sands oily-goop is ethical-N-stuff’. They had to employ an entire mid-size Perception Management firm for months to come up with that narrative to present to American politicians & the public on their good will trip to Washington DC. I guess they thought the Americans would cut any & all red pipeline tape for them. Let that ethical freedom oil-goop flow from Canada & bring the middle east troops home. If I was writing slogans I’d go with Canadian Tarsands Supports the Troops and pay Toby Kieth 1 Million dollar$ to write one of his patriotism swelling songs like only Toby can.
30 Years of Calgary Flood Warnings Fell on Deaf Ears
Yes, record high temperatures in the north caused the weather pattern that brought about unprecedented rainfall at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. But no single weather pattern, no matter how rare, can be attributed to climate change.
However, in the case of Calgary itself, there is another lesson to be learned—it’s time to start listening to scientists.
Andrew Nikiforuk points out that experts from the insurance industry to budget-starved government organizations have been warning of a massive flood in the Bow River and Elbow River for years. He calls this Calgary’s “Manhattan moment.”
But Canada Research Counsel Chair in Natural Hazard Research John Clague says the problem goes back much further, and it’s a story that feels eerily familiar to those who are interested in the debate over climate change.
https://thenarwhal.ca/30-years-calgary-flood-warnings-fell-deaf-ears/
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Every time I see anything about flooding,I paraphrase Sam Kinison; ‘We have flood plains in America but you don’t have to live there,assholes.’ 😉
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Beware of the notion that people simply choose to live in flood plains, or forest fire zones. Much of it is just population growth forcing limited alternatives, including reasonable commute options. Floridians could see major thoroughfares swamped even if they move to higher ground.
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Not everywhere it floods is a “flood plain”. A “flood plain” has a specific definition anyone can look up.
Much of the critical transportation infrastructure that was destroyed in BC was on the side of mountains. Perhaps you have another snappy one liner about that from a different dead American obese, drunken junkie comedian?
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Climate change: Flooding is ‘the new reality’ in Wales
…”The children are worried. They have conversations about whether should they move half of the furniture upstairs whenever there’s any sort of flood alert.
“And he said ‘Well we still haven’t had answers, have we? What’s changed? Nothing’s changed’.”
She added that public bodies needed to “react a lot smarter and a lot quicker to the climate changing”…
…NRW said these and subsequent storms experienced in Wales since, serve as “a stark warning that record-breaking flooding is becoming a harsh new reality for Welsh communities in the future”…
…“Climate scientists have underlined that record floods are not anomalous, they are the beginning of a new normal, and the new records will continue to be exceeded, year after year,” Ms Pillman added….
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I told my ego to sit down, shut up & not get triggered. Now I’m having to deal with the seven voices in my head.
How many Americans are living in Federal flood plains? How many structures have been rebuilt in Federal flood plains over history? How many times have the Feds expanded flood zones into areas that were not previously flood zones? I built homes & commercial buildings for 50 years,two important points: know where the property lines are located & have a survey of the present flood plain. Building a foot from the flood plain might not be wise. I built one house a significant distance from the flood plane, there was a massive flood & no damage to the structure, a year later the flood plain was expanded to include the house.
Here’s a snappy one liner:
Land that is not in a registered flood plain that floods is not in the flood plain. 😉
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I recommended to no one particular that the Jersey Shore not be rebuilt when Superstorm Sandy washed half of it away and something quite similar when Houston flooded repeatedly. Yet the call went out to rebuild bigger and stronger (but no less stupid). Those who took notice, I surmise, were the actuaries and underwriters refusing to insure those who insisted on staying in the direct line of assault. As with most disasters, even the obvious and anticipated ones, the Federal government will likely step in an bail out the fools on tax money that doesn’t exist.
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And on that note, the news today says we will see a century of sea level rise within the next few decades. Superstorms will come more frequently and more violently…
https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2022-02-15-noaa-sea-level-rise-projections-2030
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I’m well aware of what flood plains are, but are you an overpopulation denier as well as a denier that all races have a propensity for violence and stupidity? Some just get to blame others more and play their special cards. The ultimate un-denial Rubicon is to see through those games.
My main disagreement lately is with people who try to divide this rapacious species into “oppressed” vs. “victimizers” when there’s really a symbiotic attack on nature. Eco-feminists also do this by pretending they’d ever exist without men in the real world. But men do cause most of the physical harm. It’s just a package deal.
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Anyone concerned about the plastic flood? Removing plastic from the habitat is as easy as removing CO2 from the air & oceans? As an American I demand easy solutions as long as it doesn’t unset my set of living arrangements or requires any effort or taxes.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+large+mounds+of+plastic+pollution&t=newext&
atb=v293-1&iax=images&ia=images
Remember to order more plastic, wrapped in plastic from huge online importers.
Plastic is not a problem until it is in my backyard, because I’m a civilized hypocrite.
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As nasty as the millions upon millions of tons of plastic invading every nook and cranny of the earth including our bodies are (we ingest 1 credit cards worth per week), the real stars stealing the show right now are PFAS or forever chems (10s of 1000s of them in fact most not even regulated), they are turning up everywhere now that we are starting to look for them and it seems wreak havoc in incredibly small quantities (all types of cancers, liver, kidney and thyroid diseases, prenatal and development issues, and immunosuppression), absolutely everywhere, extremely expensive if not impossible to filter out at scale and thanks to farmers spreading municipal waste sludge on their fields in cows, meat, milk, crops…and the beat goes on….
How do you get PFAS out of your body?
Currently, there are no definitive medical procedures that can clear PFAS (per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances) from the body
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I don’t think anyone is having more fun than me!
$2.234 currency in circulation.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_currency_in_circulation
$30.144T National debt
https://usdebtclock.org/
Looks like there is a bottom line math problem. Someone might not get repaid. 😉
I’m such an idiot! Everyone knows printing fiat currency is the solution.
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We live in entertaining & hypocritical times.
Those evil Russians!
Look at their invasion,death & destruction because of Iraq’s WMD. Wait! Stop! I’m Wrong! It was America that invaded Iraq based on a lie.
“Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered In US War And Occupation Of Iraq “1,455,590”
“Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In U.S. War And Occupation Of Iraq 4,801”
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
Still looking for WMD? I found them!
“Which Countries Have Nuclear Weapons?”
Russia — 6,257 (1,458 active, 3039 available, 1,760 retired)
United States — 5,550 (1,389 active, 2,361 available, 1,800 retired)
China — 350 available (actively expanding nuclear arsenal)
France — 290 available
United Kingdom — 225 available
Pakistan — 165 available
India — 156 available
Israel — 90 available
North Korea — 40-50 available (estimated)
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/nuclear-weapons-by-country
Good luck everyone after the next nuclear weapon explosion in a conflict.
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I believe I might be in need of psychiatric medication. 😉
Is Ukraine a Black Swan event?
Of course it isn’t! White people killing white people!
There is no human evolution. We’ve been killing each other since Cain & Able or after we climbed down from the trees. FMTT! I’m wrong again! We have evolved more convenient methods of killing each other. Are the good guy with a gun,white supremacist Americans going to fight with their white brothers against the Freedom! hating, Communist, Russian Dictator?
Be back later,I’m going to pick up my prescriptions.
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In today’s America, the majority of killings are done by a certain race against its own people, which we dare not specify or Woke wrath will descend. It’s all visible in stats for anyone to look up. See BJS and FBI violent crime tables.
The fable that white supremacists cause most American violence (at least since the 1960s) distracts from actual urban crime wars. To locals, those street crimes are like being constantly invaded. Ukraine may be the last thing on their minds, and “police brutality” isn’t what they fear as random bullets come through their walls. To admit this recently is Progressive heresy.
Biden flipped on this topic when he needed SJW support to win the Presidency. He was blunt about the real threat to most citizens in his 1993 crime bill speech.
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Recent current events just confirm that humans are hell bent on ensuring their complete near-term annihilation (apologies for restating the obvious as readers of this blog are well aware). For capitalism, the war in Ukraine is a win-win situation (not so much for hapless Ukrainians being slaughtered) and a great boon and god-send to the US fossil fuel cabal (perfect text book case of “disaster capitalism”), The war has provided them the perfect excuse for unashamedly and vociferously now calling for ramping up oil/gas production in the US, more drilling on public lands etc, they are now salivating in over-drive, more excited than Pavlovian dogs at the prospects of ratcheting up US production big time, after all we have to bail out our hapless European “allies” to “help out” with their energy needs (at much greate expense than Nord Stream, but heck it’s nice to have ones “friends” by the balls, the opportunity to twist a little here and there, this is of course what Biden wanted all along or his advisors given his advanced senility).
“As big oil tries to defend their investments in Russia, they’re simultaneously making the case that greater production at home will help combat Putin’s influence on the global stage. It’s like a drug dealer trying to convince authorities that the best way to take out a rival isn’t to crack down on drugs, but allow him to increase production”
This is the main reason (global imperialism) the US has been hell bent on taunting, humiliating and goading Putin ever since the collapse of the Soviet Empire, not much different from the allies who instead of pursuing reconciliation, were hell bent on humiliating and crushing Germany at the end of WW I, thus ensuring that WW II would definitely be in the cards. As a murdering, cold-blooded, black ops KGB henchman of course Putin (we could not wish for better) would be hell bent on revanchism and be infuriated at the encroachment and expansion of NATO right up to Russian borders when prior admins gave him assurances that would not happen as a bargaining chip for reuniting Germany, think how we would react if Putin became BFF with Mexico and installed tons of weaponry on the border, guessing that would not be a pretty picture). We are the brilliant architects of the Ukrainian invasion (not that we really give 2 shits about that country when push comes to shove), the only thing makes me wonder is that it took this long for Putin’s scat to hit the fan.
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I suppose if Putin was not a blood-thirsty autocrat who routinely kills dissidents and opponents and has delusions of recreating a Russian Empire no matter the body count, then I would sympathize with his apprehension of NATO and the West. But since that is not the case, I look forward to Putin’s death by any means necessary.
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If unsanctioned murder and killings of innnocents (euphemistically referred to as “collateral damage”) and body counts is the criteris then logically I guess one would want to look forward to the deaths of all those involved in the past and present administrations in the killings of innocent civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria. Libya and too many African countries to mention, that is logical but somewhat of a tall order.
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I’m not too worried about the skeletons in the closet of the American empire. No, not one bit at all considering what we are talking about today….an aging autocrat rattling his nuclear saber and threatening Western countries. There’s no room for giving Putin any sort of cover for what he’s doing now.
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Let me be clear I am in no way shape or form attempting to give Putin “cover” for his actions, or think he has any moral justification whatsoever for invading. Just stating that except for the most egregious morons in the State Dept it is no surprise that Putin has invaded the Ukraine, when you poke the bear endlessly and he rips your arm off thats just an observation not a moral judgement, my main point was that starting with the MIC and fossil fuel execs there are a lot of folks out there not too upset about the way things turned out as long as its good for the pocketbook. Unlike the millions of americans (egged on in their fervent adulation by towering intellectuals like Tucker and Trumplethinskin) who now it seems get instant hard-ons at the mere mention of any brutal, oppressive, murdering despots and autocrats like Victor Orban, Duarte or the top of the A-list dictator and strong man of course: Putin. Please don’t assume that I am a member of his fan club or in league with those whose biggest regret is that we don’t yet have our very own home grown version of such a tyrant running the show (although I very much doubt they will be disappointed for long).
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I think we have more important things to worry about than Putin’s delusions of world domination. As far as poking the bear, he’s a despot who has been in power for more than two decades, so I lay no blame whatsoever on NATO and Western Allies protecting themselves and bolstering their defenses. A Third World War will be solely Putin’s doing. Ukraine is a sovereign country. Putin invaded it to liberate it from fictional “nazis”. Putin deserves no respect or deference. I prefer seeing civilization collapse under the guise of corporate-controlled “democracy” rather than the iron hand of despotism and its network of cutthroat thugs and enforcers.
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Regarding: “Don’t Look Up”, besides the fact that the flick will pretty much have zero impact on changing minds, I have long been rather disgusted with the shameless hypocrisy of the “entertainment industry” regarding its sincerity. I don’t consider “Hollywood celebs” or super-rich producers as role models when it comes to climate change or environmental activism. The average obscene CO2 footprint of americans far exceeds that in any other nation and the “super-wealthy” are the most blatantly offending culprits, with their multiple mansions, super-sized yachts, jet-setting around in private planes, over the top conspicouous consumption. In light of their lifestyles, their pontificating on climate change is just disgusting chutzpah. When actors or any other rich dudes get out there with their sad spiels that time is up we must urgently do something now…all I can think is that if you want to set an example stop luxuriating in your extreme opulence and lives of obscene wealth and cut your frigging carbon footprints, anything else is textbook hypocrisy beyond the pale…
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True. DiCaprio has a large mansion festooned with solar panels, but the energy used for even a modest-budget movie production cancels out most of that virtual signaling.
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TPTB knew if they pushed/encroached/surrounded Russia that eventually they would push back….and they did. No surprise there if you understand the game. I’m not a Putin expert, but it seems to me when he kills it’s for a purpose or goal driven. I don’t think he is crazy and kills for jollies. I’ll wager he would only let the nukes fly as a last resort. I know there are people in Ukraine suffering. I might even be a distant relative to some, but I don’t feel anything for them because for whatever reasons, I don’t feel much anymore. Sometimes it’s blank & sometimes my feelings are dialed down to a shadow. I hardly talk to people anymore as well. I drove by a woman with a flat tire the other week. I’ve always stopped my whole life, but since she had a smartphone and we’re all nothing but competing consumer-customers now, so I turned the music up & kept driving to nowhere.
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I so glad to live in a country that has free speech.
Nick Fuentes: “Honestly, I want China to take back Taiwan, I want Russia to take back Ukraine if for no other reason than it’s time for America to be humiliated.”
Nick! We don’t need help humiliating ourselves! We have 155,000,000 very proficient Republican & Democrat voters.
BTW, I couldn’t get my prescriptions to quiet the 7 voices in my head so I wearing a straight jacket. I make this look good. 😉
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As horrendous as Putin’s invasion of the Ukraine is, anyone who has the slightest inkling of what is happening to this planet knows who the real mass murderers are namely the oil/gas execs at almost all the fossil fuel companies and their endless hordes of self-serving corporate henchmen that knew long ago and hid the fact that humans would be baking or starving to death in the not too distant future and merrily went on raking in the bucks condemning humanity and to add insult to injury they spent millions of that blood money to undermine and sabotage any effort to address climate change. To put things in perspective its unlikely that Putin will kill more than a couple of hundred thousand, does that compare to the hundreds of millions that will die horrendous deaths in the next 10 to 20 years (if you think that is an exageration then you again are clueless) ? If sheer numbers are what determines culpability, Putin ranks pretty low on the list of genocidal monsters, probably his biggest crime by far is his pumping oil and gas in massive amounts and also ignoring/downplaying climate change but then he is in very good company.
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Let me end this evening on a happy note.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-60525591
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Unless nuclear fusion works and futile wind power eyesores can be dismantled, there’s already plenty of irreversible impact getting ignored for PC reasons.
Some people who post on blogs like this still miss that point. They have a strange notion that covering the world with glaring machines is benign compared to what the climate could eventually do. It’s a compounding factor; classic human haste with techno-fixes.
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We are definitely a planet of the apes.
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The 29th scroll, 6th Verse summed up more than real religious books. The species will just keep taking what it can get and rebranding the damage to virtue-signal.
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I would be remiss if I did not give a shout out to one of our great fellow american heros: Rex Tillerson who has done more than most to ensure the obliteration of the human species. Even Vladimir Putin has recognized his great contributions:
“Putin even personally awarded Tillerson with Russia’s Order of Friendship medal in 2013, the highest honor bestowed on foreign citizens.
“Trump continues to amaze,” Alexey Pushkov, the head of the foreign affairs committee in the lower house of Russian parliament. He said that selecting Tillerson would be a “sensation”. Tillerson’s biggest deal in Russia was announced with Rosneft. The companies were focused on drilling for oil in three key Russian regions: the Arctic, the deepwaters of the Black Sea, and Siberia.
Igor Sechin, a close ally of Putin and chairman of Rosneft, hailed the partnership as a “giant leap forward” and argued it’s “more ambitious than man’s first walk in space or sending a man to the moon.
Rosneft and Exxon were enthusiastic about the deal. But it was canceled one year later, when the US imposed sanctions on Russia over its annexation of Crimea and invasion of Eastern Ukraine. Tillerson sharply condemned the sanctions.”
When Sen. Tim Kaine pressed Tillerson about Exxon’s knowledge of global warming over the past several decades, Tillerson repeatedly referred to Exxon for answers.
“Do you lack the knowledge to answer my question or are you refusing to answer my question?” Kaine asked.
“A little of both,” Tillerson replied.
Wonder if the charming, avuncular Rex still proudly parades around with Putins medal pinned to his chest or if he has tucked it away somewhere for safe keeping. The only blight in his career is that he once referred to his boss as a f**** moron. But it would not be fitting for us to not remember Rex given that he has done so much for US/Russian relations and doing his part to eradicate the human species…
https://qz.com/862536/photos-the-bromance-between-russian-president-vladimir-putin-and-exxonmobil-ceo-rex-tillerson/
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I’m going hard nosed Conservative capitalist.
Unregulated,free market,oil companies should charge $300.00/gal. of gas
Anyone who says different must hate capitalist profit.
Maybe someone should shoot the messenger! 😉
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Let have a vote on banning me. I vote “yea”.
Want to stop Putin? Law enforcement simply needs to tell Russian mafia in their countries that Putin needs to go or mafia bosses will be arrested along with their wives, their children placed in govt. homes & all their property will be taken.
Putin seems to have gone missing?
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To get everyone’s mind off all the global problems.
These videos will make one forget about small details.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nuclear+war+simulations
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Gasoline prices hit record highs every couple of weeks around the world? This is probably a sign that the peak in global oil extraction already happened (in 2019/2020) , and now global oil extraction is in permanent decline. There will soon be shortages of oil, as the current high price of oil indicates that demand will soon outstrip supply.
Sooner or later, the supply chains around the globe will break down (due to “peak oil” and the whole “peak everything” crisis). And when the supply chains start to fail, supermarket shelves will “run out of” food. And the electricity grid will also start to fail. The gas stations will “run out of” gas. The water stops flowing out of the municipal water pipes. And thus, that will mean the collapse of industrial civilization will happen…I reckon by 2025 to 2030 given the current trends.
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Off of I-5 in central Oregon,2 hours ago,prices were $4.25 – 4.50/gal. I lived the OPEC oil embargo. America’s society of Karens might not be able to handle anything like that. Thou shalt be some bitching & moaning. 😉
Guy McPherson talked about municipal faucets running dry a few years ago. He’s moved his prediction for NTHE back from 2026 to 2024.
Check out the James Webb telescope pics.
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Except the OPEC shocks were only temporary…this time it will be chronic energy shortages, that will be one of the factors leading to collapse of industrial civilization. As time passes by, the deficient between oil supply and demand will grow larger and larger until the supply chains literally break down. Leading to an event unprecedented in human history…a mass die off of the global human population. Even if a few people survive, civilization could never be rebuilt because the energy and other nonrenewable resources used to build it have already been depleted. This article illustrates the situation we are now facing with the global peak of oil extraction (and the subsequent decline)
https://dieoff.com/page173.htm
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Peak shale fracking is essentially THE Peak Oil that doomers have been “waiting” for. Oil prices were rising after fewer COVID slowdowns started restored demand (before Putin threatened Ukraine).
The early to mid 2020s has long been a shale bust time-frame. From 2018: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/02/20/is-peak-oil-possible-in-four-years/?sh=7a1a146a52b6
Anyone who picks exact dates for Peak Oil tends to be mocked on short-term technicalities, but I have a grim feeling about this round. Grim for growthism, that is. Good for parts of nature that will get a reprieve – until they get crammed full of wind turbines.
We’re already getting the rude awakening that “renewables” can’t scale up to match the fossil fuels they couldn’t exist without. Lots of spin in Europe over their hidden gas dependencies.
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You do realize when energy demand starts to outstrip energy supply, then the economy contracts…which leads to bankruptcies as individuals, businesses and countries are unable to pay off their debts? And I do think that a sudden, abrupt collapse of industrial civilization is almost inevitable. Nobody knows the exact date, but it is obvious that industrial civilization is declining and degenerating…just look at how degenerate and lackluster our “culture” is…and every year that passes, things get worse and worse
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Indeed, anyone cooperatively posting on this site would agree. My main point is that many doomers have been premature about peaks, leading to ignorant assumptions that the big one will never quite arrive.
It’s like the cherry-picking of Paul Ehrlich’s failed predictions on famine. He underestimated fossil fuels’ future capacity in a certain time-frame, but it’s getting easier to narrow down since we’re reliant on tight oil.
[Sometimes this server stalls; didn’t mean to double-post before.]
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Absolutely. 100% on all that. Thank you for speaking truth. It’s lonely out here.
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Peak shale fracking is essentially THE Peak Oil that doomers have been “waiting” for. Oil prices were rising after fewer COVID slowdowns started restoring demand (before Putin threatened Ukraine).
The early to mid 2020s has long been a shale bust time-frame. From 2018: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/02/20/is-peak-oil-possible-in-four-years/?sh=7a1a146a52b6
Anyone who picks exact dates for Peak Oil tends to be mocked on short-term technicalities, but I have a grim feeling about this round. Grim for growthism, that is. Good for parts of nature that will get a reprieve – until they get crammed full of wind turbines.
We’re already getting the rude awakening that “renewables” can’t scale up to match the fossil fuels they couldn’t exist without. Lots of spin in Europe over their hidden gas dependencies.
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my god I cannot fathom how silly these last few postings are, bemoaning “peak oil”, gas prices…No matter what humanity does we are irrevocabley condemned, unstoppable feedback loops have kicked in that are now far surpassing anything we are doing to warm the planet up beyond 2.5 C (5C much mor likely before end of century), we have set off the timebomb and there is no turning it off (similar to Dr Strangelove doomsday machine) unimaginable amounts of CO4 will be release from permafrost and ocean clathrates that will dwarf the impact of 420 CO2 levels. Sucking this all out of the atmosphere is a delusional madmans pipedream (similar to cleaning up the plastic/PFAS nightmare pervading the planet) as is “green new deal” or any pie in sky attempt to put our “house back in order”. Even without any global warming whatsoever we have destroyed the planet thru myriad other ways. Predicting the complete collapse of IC in 2025,2030,..2040 and the extinction and horrendous deaths of billions of humans if not the entire species down to the last human(along with 99% of others) is purely farcical academic indulgence…
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That is correct. Humanity has destroyed the planet’s biosphere, and has triggered abrupt climate change. There are no undisturbed ecosystems left on this planet. The 6th Mass extinction is progressing every passing day. The planet’s wild life is disappearing every passing day. The planet is becoming increasingly biodiverse poor. The quality of human life is decreasing every passing day. There will be no new breakthrough technological gimmicks to extend the life span of industrial civilization.
The rate of major technological innovations has been steadily declining over the past couple of decades. All of the major tech “innovations” (more like gimmicks) were invented many decades ago. The only way corporations can convince people that there is on-going technological “progress” is by planned obsolence I.e. releasing a new model of the iPhone or some tech gimmick every year. Not changing the fact that all of this fancy technology is still just by-products of fossil fuels/petrochemicals
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But the Lucid Air is a damned fine car*, and look at all those “magnificent” wind turbines “greening” it up! If the planet is lucky, all 3.8 million of them, per Mark Z. Jacobson, could save it from economic & industrial bloat. No, wait a second…..
[* I do think so, actually]
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I used to get upset and troubled that the vast majority have no inkling of or understanding (due to the complete failure of educational systems, the relentless and profitable dumbing down of the population, social media endlessly spewing garbage, and the stranglehold of corporate media feeding the masses endless irrelevant, childish pablum and wiping out any shred of analytical, logical fact based thinking, or even human nature that cannot react to anything other than immediate threats) of what is coming down the pipeline within their lifetimes (especially the younger generations) or the extent to which we have irreversibly destroyed life on the planet and to what alarming degree we have accelerated the ticking clock of our own demise or set in motion boon times for the grim reaper. But now in a kind of ethereal sad and weary resignation I realize it is for the best, like the comforting of a sick or crippled horse or dog that has been with you and loved you for years and that you are about to shoot. Why keep trying to alert them to their ineluctable doom and the sheer horrors to come, mercifully let them eke out their remaining time in ignorant bliss (yet have to confess tinged with envy perhaps of their blindness to their coming fate and that of their children).
Maybe its not such a bad thing that the lefties and “environmentalists” go on entertaining despite all evidence their absurd delusions that we can yet save the ship, beacons of hope, hyping up the need to desperately act now, delay no further. Animated trumpeters sounding out the clarion call to espouse wholeheartedly the sheer stupidity of the “Green New Deal”, the laughable illusion that we can yet reign in or tame corporatism or its alter ego neoliberal capitalism to the benefit or maybe even just sheer survival of mankind, mount a heroic, goosebump raising,inspiring, last ditch effort to save ourselves (and maybe even a few other species to boot). All that is needed is just a moderate somewhat painless course correction of capitalism (we might not even have to forego any luxuries). Or the arrogant, sorcerer apprentice techno-nuts, nose to the grindstone, ever upbeat nerds, working for all the big boys like Gates or Elon, promising us salvation in the nick of time. Inspiring dudes that worship the omnipotence of mankind and cling to the religion that we can conjure up any techno miracles to get ourselves out of any ugly quagmire or “dead ends” (after all god damn you cynics, we almost have quantum computers…at the very least they will figure it out for us and save our asses).
It is with an immensely heavy heart that I look upon family and friends and feel such deep and painful love for them in light of the ultimate tragedy of humanity.
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I agree ignorance is bliss. Everything is getting worse and worse, and it is best to not let most people know about how screwed humanity and the biosphere is.
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Having blogged and commented at this site and elsewhere about “everything getting worse and worse” for many years, I’ve come to uneasy terms with the worst case scenario playing out before our eyes with increasing urgency. While the timeline, machinations, and endgame are still unknown, I agree with all above comments that the sole remaining path is down to the grave for most if not all of humanity as well as most if not all of the rest of life on Earth. That said, it strikes me as patronizing to decide for others what they should know. I never shove anything in anyone’s face, but neither do I hide the truth (best as I can know it). YMMV
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Laughing my way through collapse.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/7/2084521/-GOP-candidate-for-a-Michigan-House-seat-tells-his-daughters-to-enjoy-being-raped
Punchline: “Can one get your daughters’ addresses?”
Oh, the beauty of the dark cloud moving in our direction.
Anyone going out with a smile?
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https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/03/tuesday-poem-296.html
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Good one!
“Don’t let yourself get old,
but if you must get old,
don’t let yourself get crazy”
Too late for some of us. I’ve almost escaped this straight jacket.
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At this point I can no longer denounce those that are urging us to go gung-ho, guns a blazing on oil and gas (coal to boot), clamoring vociferously to open up the Keystone pipeline, get the sh** flowing in spades, suck up that super polluting tarsands gunk, drill the hell out of the Arctic refuge (screw what’s left of the remaining herds of caribou and musk ox, polar bears are already starving to death so non issue there), open up all public lands humanly drillable to the greedy rapacious oil/gas death cult corporations, Exxon and the slew of drug fixers. Those that say sierra clubbers be damned, urge us to ignore, censor and run roughshod over anyone who wants to put a damper on the final go around of our manic pumping and digging bonanza, native americans, dreamy eyed nature lovers, tree huggers and all those who cherish and hold the land sacred, all the wet blankets and party-poopers that stubbornly continue to put a damper on our final götterdämmerung shindig, the fossil fuel open bar, drinking ourselves into a drunken stupor to welcome home the grim reaper. Why hold back on homo sapiens terminal gluttonous energy bacchanalia, the grand finale of our species, why cut short the closing days of man’s apocalyptic orgy of pumping the planet dry? We have been our own judge, jury, and executioners, and as for the condemned man we should allow him to indulge in one last tasty meal before his execution.
We tire of the deluded nagging fools pestering us with their dire warnings of 5 alarm fires and calls to action, bursting at the seams with their nonsensical illusions that covering the earth with massive wind turbines and millions of acres of solar panels (needing to be constantly replaced due to very limited lifespans). We tire of those touting the coming miracle of billions merrily chauffeuring around in their shiny new EVs as promised by the TPTBs, thinking such 1950s style good old days fantasies is going to make beans of difference to our fate and that of most life currently being annihilated on this planet. Those that desperately clutch to the fantasy that we are not going to hit 5C and beyond with 2.5C just around the corner (not exactly: “Prosperity is just around the corner?”) no matter what we do at this point or that don’t seem to fathom that we have insured and are the trustworthy guarantors of the destruction of life on this planet (in umpteen other ways as well even factoring out the global warming bugbear) are almost as painful to bear as the outright denialists…
I too was one of those delusional fools drinking the Kool-Aid of hope and yearning for sanity, thinking humans would come to their senses before it was too late to stave off the inevitable…letting those damn emotional yearnings get the better of me.
When we get old we’re gonna talk about the good times;
Fat and happy, spreading rumors through the grapevines.
With any luck, we’ll still be up to our old ways
Been a hell of a ride but I’m thinking it’s time to go
…
I’m way too young to lie here forever
I’m way too old to try so whatever come hang (come hang)
Let’s go out with a bang
Bang! Bang! Bang!
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Quotes
“Re Gas prices: It’s interesting how people who support free market capitalism are suddenly very upset about having to pay for free market capitalism.”
“Everything happens for a reason, but sometimes things happen because you’re stupid and make bad decisions”.
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This is a good website for keeping up-to-date on the rapidly-deteriorating conditions of the planet’s biosphere…
https://news.mongabay.com/
It shows all of the pollution, deforestation, poaching and other factors causing the Sixth Mass Extinction.
And here is a nice interview with Michael Ruppert about peak oil, environmental degradation and government corruption.
Here is an article on the various factors that will lead to the collapse of industrial civilization
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2020-08-10/four-reasons-civilization-wont-decline-it-will-collapse/
And here is an interesting article explaining why peak oil will lead to the permanent failure of the electric grid and thus the collapse of industrial civilization
https://dieoff.com/page224.htm
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Thanks for those great resources. Another good one that provides quick yet laser focus on these issues is: https://climateandeconomy.com/
I’ve been following and reading it for years. Keeps it very real!
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Here is a good link for you to read…it explains how our economy (capitalism) is essentially a pyramid scheme
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2009/3/1/703300/-
Here are several sites I frequently browse. They provide an overview behind the current human predicament
The following site explains how completely dependent we are on fossil fuels, and why “renewable” energies cannot prevent industrial civilization from collapsing
https://energyskeptic.com/
(Spoiler alert: every aspect of modern civilization is dependent on fossil fuels)
And of course, the following site is more explanation for the un-sustainability of industrial civilization, and the reasons why we are utterly dependent on fossil fuels (hint: it isn’t because of a conspiracy by fossil fuel companies…it is because the EROEI of alternative energies is too low compared to fossil fuels, and how all alternative energies are ultimately dependent on fossil fuels)
Dieoff.com
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Here is a good link summarizing the whole predicament of global human population overshoot and fossil fuels.
https://dieoff.com/page137.htm
It explains why we are completely dependent on fossil fuels, and why that will never change
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Here is a book called Peak Oil and The Die Off written by Matt Savinar
Click to access traducao-DieOff.pdf
Which explains why peak oil will lead to the inevitable decline and collapse of industrial civilization. I agree with everything he wrote his book except for his naive claim that “humans won’t go extinct, as long as we prevent a global, thermonuclear war” …it shows that he underestimates how degraded the planet’s ecosystems are, and a gross underestimation of the mind boggling level of ecological overshoot (human overpopulation/overconsumption) of industrial civilization. Even if no nuclear war happens, the chances of any humans surviving the collapse of industrial civilization is pretty slim because of climate chaos and the depletion of other nonrenewable resources (besides fossil fuels)…and of course combined with the complete destruction of the planet’s biosphere.
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” naive claim,,,”, well, hope springs eternal, emotions have an absolute capacity to shut down rational thought (especially when those thoughts are too painful to contemplate) and build a protective wall of comforting illusions, Bill McKibben is a painful cheerleading example of a man hemmed in by blinders…its clear that with massive unstoppable feedback loops (too numerous to list here, see my earlier comments) compounded with our continuing inaction and the farcical Kabuke theatre pretense of actually doing anything about global warming or environmental destruction nothing will save us short of a miracle, and unfortunately I dont believe in miracles to my chagrin…
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Here is the truth about peak oil and climate change. Even if peak oil causes the economic collapse/collapse of industrial civilization within the next 5 to 10 years (thereby reducing anthropogenic GHG emissions to almost zero), it still doesn’t save us from abrupt climate change because the current GHG concentrations in the atmosphere is already too high. Not to mention, the climatic feedback loops that are already in the pipeline (I.e. Arctic ice melt, methane release, carbon sinks becoming carbon sources, etc). The current concentration of GHGs is already sufficient enough to raise the global average temperature by 4 to 6 degrees Celsius above pre industrial levels by the mid 21st century. Causing massive climate destabilization even if no more GHG emissions are emitted into the atmosphere starting from today.
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As for NTHE (Near Term Human Extinction), I seriously doubt humans will be extinct within this decade or even next decade. But I do expect industrial civilization to rapidly decline (and possibly collapse) within this decade or next decade. I predict NTHE will likely happen during the mid to late 21st century…possibly around 2060 or 2070.
It is very, very obvious that humanity’s presence on this planet is not sustainable, so our extinction will happen sooner or later. Forgot about global warming. Look at all of the other factors that is causing the Sixth Mass Extinction, such as deforestation, habitat fragmentation, chemical pollution, invasive species, poaching and etc…and it is very clear that humanity’s presence on Earth is NOT sustainable in even the slightest.
Agriculture and city building is, by far, the leading cause of biodiversity loss…agricultural lands alone take up at least 50% of all the dry land surface on this planet. All of the land dedicated to agriculture and livestock rearing takes up an area the size of the entire North and South American continents combined. Humanity’s mere presence on this planet is what is killing the planet’s biosphere…not the global warming caused by our industrial activities.
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The current & on going mass extinction makes for 8 (known) mass extinctions & all but maybe one involves climate change. Most are Hot House/global warming mass extinctions.
Global warming is a proven killer. Global warming holds the championship belt for the most mass extinctions on earth.
Lets take a look at one of the more recent ones (7th known) and more specifically the cause.
Newly discovered mass extinction event triggered the dawn of the dinosaurs
Huge volcanic eruptions 233 million years ago pumped carbon dioxide, methane and water vapour into the atmosphere. This series of violent explosions, on what we now know as the west coast of Canada, led to massive global warming. Our new research has revealed that this was a planet-changing mass extinction event that killed off many of the dominant tetrapods and heralded the dawn of the dinosaurs.
https://theconversation.com/newly-discovered-mass-extinction-event-triggered-the-dawn-of-the-dinosaurs-146248
Green house gasses just like us. Leading to global warming just like us & a global warming mass extinction…. without input from us.
Earth has proven again & again that global warming mass extinctions, like the Permian, are it’s preferred method of mass extinctions. The humans just showed up 15 mins ago & are playing copy the volcanism. As for the damage from all of the humans other behaviours? Last scientfic estimate I saw was a few years back claimed 50/50. I’d glady take a look at any newer study onthe matter, but it’ll be a guess since we haven’t been through this before, but the earth has and the record is crystal clear that global warming is a proven, mass killer all by it’s lonesome. To suggest global warming is the side show has it backwards. You could say that the humans would cause a mass extinction even without any global heating, but your still guessing.
In my reality, this shit does not happen without global heating.
Nearly 600 lives claimed by B.C.’s historic, record-breaking heat wave
“Tuesday, November 2nd 2021, 9:27 pm – The extreme heat that scorched B.C. this past summer not only broke records and contributed to a historic wildfire season, it also led to the deaths of at least 595 people, according to BC Coroners Service.”
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/nearly-600-lives-claimed-by-british-columbias-historic-record-breaking-heat-wave
Cost of rebuilding B.C. after flooding nears $9-billion
“Historic rain storms that unleashed flooding and debris slides across southern British Columbia in November have left governments, industry and individuals with staggering losses, adding up to what is likely to be Canada’s most costly natural disaster to date.
The disaster offers a lesson to Canada about the need to invest in preventative measures in a country that is increasingly at risk of extreme weather catastrophes due to climate change.”
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-cost-of-rebuilding-bc-after-november-storms-nears-9-billion/
Runaway Global Warming = King Killer, then & now.
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I wasn’t denying global warming. I was simply pointing out the other overwhelming factors that is causing biodiversity decline in the Holocene/Anthropocene…namely all of the wilderness areas we converted into agricultural lands/cities over the past couple thousand years of civilization to support our ever-growing human population and profligate life styles. The majority of wild life extinctions during the past couple of centuries were caused by habitat destruction, poaching, invasive species, which is a direct by-product of the expansion of human civilization and agriculture. Even to this day, the vast majority of biodiversity decline is caused by the expansion of agriculture and cities…however, I agree with you that Anthropogenic Climate Disruption (ACD) will likely be the nail in the coffin for the human species
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“Antarctic climatology has been rewritten,” tweeted Stefano Di Battista, a researcher who has published studies on Antarctic temperatures. He added that such temperature anomalies would have been considered “impossible” and “unthinkable” before they actually occurred.”
https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/scientists-flabbergasted-as-temperatures-soar-70-degrees-warmer-than-normal-in-antarctica-41cd3266-974c-4e69-b7a4-931950dce726
Meet the new normal,different than the old normal? The voices in my head keep asking: “WTF is wrong with the Clever Ape?” They are bananas & nuts.
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Interesting that with Putin and company nuclear war is once again inching up on the agenda and in the pop charts of recurrent nightmares. However there is now a school of thought that conceives that nuclear stockpiles that can wipe out the world many times over might just be a blessing and preferable exit strategy or escape hatch for mankind facing the consequences of its colossal suicidal stupidy. That is, a world wide species-level-euthanasia, a mercy-killing of the masses in the pits of unrelenting suffering and despair and otherwise condemned to the slowly unfolding yet certainty of unspeakable horrors and painful agonizing deaths (akin to putting down a suffering animal). In an all out no holds barred frenzy of nuclear armageddon with all nuclear powers emptying the clips of their combined nuclear arsenals in a kind of apocalyptic Dr. Strangelove finale (minus the patriotic yee-haw’s of Major T. J. “King” Kong), most of mankind will be obliterated within minutes or hours, for the vast majority no prolonged torture or suffering as they will be instantly vaporized or incinerated in a flash. Certainly there will be some on the fringes that will die agonizing deaths from radiation poisoning, burns and melting skin but those numbers can be reduced to a minimum with intelligent targeting and well planned and executed launch commands. This may in fact be a more humane alternative to letting billions drag out their demise with the coming horrors to befall them, unspeakable prolonged suffering, the mental torture of watching their beloved children die slow, painful agonizing deaths from wet bulb heat, thirst, starvation, the ravages of new diseases that are sure to come, brutal unrelenting weather catastrophes, floods, hurricanes and the like.
With the increasing nuclear brinkmanship now on the table and nations across the globe pouring vast sums of money and resources into “upgrading” and expanding their nuclear arsenals it just might be the ticket for mankind.
They’re talkin’ about (yeah)
Nuclear war (yeah)
If they push that button
Your ass gotta go…
Gonna blast your ass
So high in the sky
You can kiss your ass
Goodbye, goodbye
Sun Ra lyrics
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It is really depressing to realize that NTHE will probably manifest within the next couple of decades of the 21st century. Even though human extinction is inevitable at this point and the ecological destruction humans cause is undeniable, it is depressing to think that all of the amazing artistic, cultural and scientific achievements of humanity will soon be forgotten after the collapse of industrial civilization.
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Here is an article about the psychological coping methods of realising NTHE
https://us1.campaign-archive.com/?u=b8e53c620300ae88791163048&id=46992789e1&e=f0754ee742
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Just FYI, the overwhelming majority of the human population does not possess the time nor energy to realize the sobering conclusion of the demise of the human species. And even those with the time and energy usually aren’t scientifically literate enough to realize the reality of human ecological overshoot (overconsumption/overpopulation) and the inevitability of the collapse of industrial civilization. We “doomers” are among the tiny percentage of the population that realizes the reality of the inevitable collapse of modern civilization.
Here is a funny video about the human predicament of the 21st century.
I hope you enjoy watching it!
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Here is an interesting interview of Richard Manning talking about the development of agriculture, civilization, the Green Revolution, fossil fuels, global warming and the myth of human progress
Here is an interview of Richard Heinberg talking about the peak oil and the “peak everything” crisis facing modern civilization. He does offer some hopium towards the end of the video though.
Here is Daniel Quinn talking about how agriculture and human civilization is the leading cause of the Sixth Mass Extinction. And how agriculture is causing exponential human population growth, which is the leading cause of biodiversity loss
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And no offense to certain, well-intentioned people, the idea that permaculture will “save” humanity is rather naive. Permaculture is a fun hobby to have. And it is certainly more sustainable than conventional agriculture (despite its limitations). I used to practice it a few years ago with several friends. But to expect it to feed 8 billion (or more) people is ridiculous. Without the just-in-time, fossil fuel powered supply chains operating 24/7 around the world, the vast majority of the global human population would perish very quickly.
Just my two cents. I still encourage people to practice permaculture because it is one of the only worthwhile things to do before SHTF happens. Just don’t expect it to prevent the human overpopulation bubble from collapsing.
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I don’t mind self created consequences,should have thought more about a few of my decisions, but it pisses me off when the Clever Apes overpopulate this rock & I suffer from their collateral damage stupidity. I’ll have to watch what suffering children experience in the future, consequences created by their self absorbed parents. I enjoy the videos of women & their children escaping Ukraine,what a great life. I’m sure kids love a great adventure being completely lost in the fog of war. Parents aren’t special & it’s too late for them to fix their stupid .
Best wishes,
Non-parent.
Asides – I love the glow of thermonuclear explosions at dawn. Just burned my straight jacket! 😉
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Meant to post the above as new comment not a reply.
Read Ishmael in 93/94. Good description of the Clever Ape.Who would know better than a gorilla? Keep pedaling!
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To be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised that, by the year 2040, the global human population is reduced down to a mere 50 to 100 million people. I suspect global human population will peak sometime during this decade at 8 billion-ish people. And then rapidly decline, as industrial civilization starts to crumble and collapse from the global supply chains breaking down and the electricity grid permanently failing (caused by peak oil , climate change and a plethora of other factors). Unfortunately, I do suspect the overwhelming majority of the global population will perish over the next 10 to 20 years from famine, social strife and disease (caused by the global supply chains and electricity grids permanently failing).
It is not going to be pretty that is for sure. Peak oil and abrupt climate change will be killing billions of people around the world in the coming decades. Perhaps starting in this decade. Really, all we can do is enjoy our limited time on Earth with our family, friends and nature before the SHTF happens. Because when that day does happen, only a handful of people might survive…most people will perish in the most unpleasant way possible.
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Fifty years since the publication of the Club of Rome’s “Limits to Growth” . The most
optimistic scenario in it is what they call a ” Stabilized World model 1 ” (Figure 46 )
Note that the ‘Resources ‘ graph continues in a downward trend. Note also that the
modelling has heroic assumptions about the ability of pollution control measures to
control pollution,which continues at a low,non-increasing level.
Would the other graphs continue in their horizontal trajectory while the resources
graph continues downward ? No. Is it possible for the pollution graph to remain horizontal while the fossil fuels powering their ” Stabilized World” increase atmospheric CO2 levels as they are depleted ? No. Is it possible to have a “Stabilised World”
based on a finite energy source ? No.
It’s not a “Stabilized World ” at all.
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Hmmh, it is impossible to predict the exact date when TEOTWAWKI will happen, but based on the overwhelming evidence available to us “doomers” , it probably isn’t very far away. Probably within this decade or next decade…if we are exceptionally “lucky”, we might delay collapse for another 10 to 15 years, but I seriously doubt any longer than that. Regardless of when ” it” will happen, we would know that SHTF has happened when the electricity grid permanently shuts down, the grocery stores permanently “run out” of food, the water stops flowing out of the municipal pipes, the cars/trucks/trains/planes/ other transportation permanently stops moving, and of course…when the Internet is permanently gone (due to the permanent collapse of the electricity grid and global supply chains). The scenario I just described may sound unbelievable and unrealistic, but I think that a catastrophic collapse of industrial civilization is inevitable given the plethora of factors at play…such as peak oil, climate change, overpopulation, environmental degradation/species extinction, pollution, and many Many more factors
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You mentioned upthread that you are interested in permaculture. What climate zone are you in ? I’m in N. Queensland, Australia,zone 10 b or 11. I first read about Chaya decades ago,and finally have three cuttings growing. Exceedingly difficult to obtain here to date. People sell a form of Aibika (Abelmoschus manihot) as Chaya
here. Anyway,I now have a stingless form of C. chayamansa growing.
https://survivalgardener.com/chaya-tree-spinach/
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Ok yeah permaculture is an interesting hobby, no doubt, but I had to give up on it for several, unfortunate reasons. The first reason is because the land I practiced it on has been sold and bought by someone else for purposes other than permaculture recently (I believe during the winter of 2022). I don’t own my own plot of land to practice permaculture on because I live in a big city, and I don’t have the financial resources to live outside of a big city. I live in the suburbs of Toronto, Ontario btw.
I practiced permaculture for a few years during the 2010s. And it was truly an enjoyable experience. It helped me learn how plants grew…unfortunately, it didn’t take me very long to realize that there is no way permaculture can save humanity from a mass die off/near term extinction because of the limitations of permaculture. And also because of the inheritant traits of humanity that makes humanity fundamentally unsustainable and destined for its eventual self-extinction. It is too late to prevent the 8 billion people human overpopulation bubble from crashing, as most people on this site already realized.
The sad fact about living in the 21st century is that there is literally no unspoiled/undisturbed wilderness left on this planet. Literally all of the ecosystems on this planet have been completely destroyed by humans. Agriculture and human civilization has already completely wrecked the planet’s biosphere, and it is already far, far too late to save nature. Long before any of us were even born, the planet’s biosphere was already doomed thanks to human agriculture/civilization…now the final nail in the coffin for the human species, aka near term human extinction, is guaranteed within the next couple of decades of the 21st century. Seriously, anyone, who actually cares about saving what remains of nature, would be happily and eagerly waiting for the collapse of industrial civilization /NTHE because it is obvious that the human species is irredeemably corrupt and unsustainable. There is literally no way humans can ever live in harmony with nature, and given all of the catastrophic ecological damage humans have done (and continue to inflict on the biosphere), humanity’s extinction in the not-too-distant future is guaranteed
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People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage.
―John Kenneth Galbraith
Consequences? : French Revolution, Russian Revolution,etc.
How many have suffered from their self absorbed privilege?
“When people lose everything & have nothing left to lose,they lose it.” – Gerald Celente.
Might not be a good time to be on the opposite side of the pissed off.
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great quote from Galbraith. Of course our coming collapse and extinction will not be a peaceful, calm, measured affair, there will be mayhem, slaughter, revenge, social chaos, looting, murdering of neighbors that were once were good friends, mass suicides, horrendous brutality spawned of desperation, probably even cannabalism, in short, a new self-immolating world order of grisly collapse, a world that closely emulates Hieronymus’s Hell painting…Mad Max on steroids, far beyond what any Hollywood clown can conjure up to titillate us…remember when the russkies were finished with their gluttony of gang rape in the fall of Berlin well over 10 thousand women committed suicide.
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Shades of grey
Allied soldiers — including Canadians — raped thousands of German women after Second World War: research
It is clear that this violence was driven in no small part by a desire to exact revenge on the Germans for atrocities committed in the East, including mass sexual violence
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/allied-soldiers-including-canadians-raped-thousands-of-german-women-after-second-world-war-research
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Shades of grey
Allied soldiers — including Canadians — raped thousands of German women after Second World War: research
It is clear that this violence was driven in no small part by a desire to exact revenge on the Germans for atrocities committed in the East, including mass sexual violence
“Recent historical research has revealed German women and girls were also targets, subjected en masse to a wide range of sexual violence allegedly committed by American, Canadian, British, French and Soviet soldiers.”
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/allied-soldiers-including-canadians-raped-thousands-of-german-women-after-second-world-war-research
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Regarding the recent sky high records shattering temps at both poles and flabbergasting even the most hardened, battle-scarred, “been around the block” climate scientists, their shock and awe does not give one any confidence that their models, whirring away number crunching, are worth much. Hail to these dutiful eggheads, nose to the grindstone, predicting and plotting with scientific level headedness, detached and calm the timeline of our extinction.
Defense contractor Lockheed Martin (already crapping their pants with joy since the Ukraine war broke out, stocks soaring, shaking like a crack whore at the thought of fingering soooo much moola, one can now smell their pant soiling from a mile away) wants to push hard for deep sea mineral mining. We have pretty much already ensured the complete destruction and collapse of ocean ecosystems (thus ensuring our extinction as an added benefit) but why not put the final nail in the coffin, continue to ransack and despoil the oceans unabated. This dispels any lingering doubts one might have had that mankind would desist before polluting, destroying, degrading every darn nook and cranny on the planet for profit.
“The areas of the deep sea where mining contracts have been issued support some of the most biodiverse and scientifically important ecosystems on Earth. Scientists fear the practice could devastate deepwater ecosystems, both directly by destroying life in the seabed, and indirectly by generating sediment plumes, light pollution, noise, and toxins that would affect life far beyond the actual mining sites.”
http://www.savethehighseas.org/deep-sea-mining/impacts-of-deep-sea-mining/
We now seem taken aback that it just might be the case that the oceans are not an endless abyss and dumping ground we can piss into ad infinitum, to our hearts content. For some odd reason people now seem frazzled when millions of tons of disgusting plastic garbage and pollutants wash up on their beautiful once pristine beaches, toxic algal blooms pop up all over the place (eg fertilizer run off, less than half of this fertilizer reaches the crops it’s intended for, the rest runs off into the wider environment and eventually into the ocean), widening dead zones…
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Much appreciation and respect to you, Henri. It’s so terribly difficult being a clear eyed realists like us. You are as articulate as ever! Hugs.
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” shaking like a crack whore at the thought of fingering soooo much moola, one can now smell their pant soiling from a mile away)”
Hilarious & sad!
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“It is certainly reasonable to worry,” Fatak told the Guardian. “Particles are present and travel throughout the body.” Previous work, he said, had shown that microplastics were ten times higher in children’s stool than adults, and that children fed with plastic bottles ingested millions of microplastics every day.
“We also know in general that infants and young children are more susceptible to exposure to chemicals and particulates,” he said. “This worries me a lot.”
https://webringnet.com/microplastic-particles-found-in-human-blood-for-the-first-time-plastic/
Alright my sweeties,drink your bottled water & play with all the plastic toy crap. Chewing on plastic is great for dental care? Bottled water is so convenient & stupid. What does water in bottles cost per gallon in different regions? One figure, $9.60/gal. Might as well bring back bring back lead paint on toys & lead in gasoline for all the concern parents have for their children.
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Again like climate change microplastic pollution cannot be put back in the bottle, millions of tons of ubiquitous plastics will continue to be shredded down to micro size with each passing day (and so easily enter our bodies via any available orifice, never to leave our organs like unwanted house guests), continually sloshing around on air, sea, and land (ever increasing amounts will be found in the fish and sea food we eat so bon appetit), the total plastic burden on this planet is now colossal and still increasing unabated (like global warming we’ll get around to it at some point). Recycling is an absolute joke perpetrated by the producers. And where in the hell are those damn microbes they keep promising us that will obligingly eat up all this sh**, make it harmless, let us get a good nights sleep knowing the little hungry critters are chomping away at our gargantuan planetary mess so we can check off one more stink hole of our making (minus maybe the payload already inside us).
And talking about chemical horrors the all time champ seems to be PFAS (F= either fluoro or forever take your pick), for unbeatable here to stay longevity, grab your PFAS (literally 1000s of different compounds, heat resistent, non degradable), they are literally indestructible little guys that will haunt you from now till doomsday (can we conjure up a little fellow that will eat them up to, they are pretty tough unpalatable SOBs ?). Sadly they hitch rides into the body pretty easily and are nasty house guests that for certain will never clear the premises and are probably more toxic than microparticles (kidney, liver damage, weakened immune systems and cancer….). What is even more insidious is that PFAS have coated or been mixed in just about every consumer item imaginable (food wrappers, clothing, cosmetics, floss, sprays, foams, pans, carpets, furniture, you name it, its probably got your PFAS in spades, accept it the little buggers are part of your life now).
The EPA has always been bought out and muzzled by corporations and was corrupt and not up to the job long before the greasy Pruitt opened up the candy store to polluters and poisoners letting them run amok with their chemical cocktails (another crowd that sh** their pants till they dripped as soon as it became open season for poisoning consumers no strings attached). Hell, we even let them do their own “unbiased” testing and faithfully report the results, scouts honor, our motto “in corporations we trust”, heck they’d never let the bottom line tempt them to poison you.
some nice tidbits of the chemical mayhem unleashed on humans (and all species in general)
Since 1994, 80 million babies have been born, many or all of whom have come into the world carrying toxic chemicals in their bodies.
There are around 84,000 chemicals on the market, and we come into contact with many of them every single day. And if that isn’t enough to cause concern, the shocking fact is that only about 1 percent of them have been studied for safety.
Women are particularly at risk because they generally use more personal care products than men: 25 percent of women apply 15 or more products daily, including makeup and anti-aging creams, amounting to an average of 168 chemicals. For a pregnant woman, the risk is multiplied as she can pass on those toxins to her unborn child: 300 contaminants have been detected in the umbilical cord blood of newborns.
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/ticking-time-bomb-pfas-chemicals-drinking-water-alarm/story?id=79300094
https://www.sciencealert.com/you-exposed-thousands-untested-chemicals-for-decades-scientists-warn-hazardous-toxic
A third reason is that the laws create ignorance about potential toxicants, provide substantial incentives for companies to remain ignorant about their own products, and, because of the legal structures, provide many incentives for companies to create doubt about the science or demand ideal science in fiercely opposing any actions that might threaten their products or reduce their profits,”
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Ignorance is the world’s greatest alibi as in, “I didn’t know. It’s not my fault.”
Consequences of ignorance might not be pleasant. Some may also experience consequences of stupidity.
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Let’s make a list of all Americans that have a financial interest in these murdering companies. Hypocrisy is a pandemic.
“Paying taxes to the budget of a terrorist country means killing defenseless children and mothers,” Shmyhalof said.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/besides-koch-industries-halliburton-subway-214751816.html
What has more power than a vote? Boycotts.
I don’t know about everyone else but I’ve had enough of stupid loud mouth Russia loving fascist Republicans. 81,000,000 plus Dems,Independents,Progressives have the FREEDOM! to spend their money where they choose. A boycott of all Republican voting & supporting businesses,one’s on main street, will get their attention. One of my favorite sayings is; Get into someone’s wallet & you will get their attention.
There is no defense against boycotts,except bankruptcy.Hard to boycott a shuttered business.
“Don’t expect much and you won’t be disappointed.“ — Cinda Williams Chima
I got that! I don’t vote for the Rep or Dem delusional parties. I’m not represented by these idiots, so based on patriotic American values I don’t have to pay taxes.
“No taxation without representation.”
Changing my handle to “No Filter” 😉
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I wonder how the capitalist system will respond to permanent economic contraction since we already hit peak oil in 2019/2020, and now global oil extraction is in permanent decline? I would imagine massive unemployment, increasing price of food/fuel/all other industrial products, and finally massive social unrest…all of which is already happening. Many third world countries (like China and Africa) are already becoming destabilized due to increasing price of food and fossil fuels. The Third World countries are likely to collapse within the next 2 to 3 years due to peak oil/climate change-induced famine. Then followed by the developed countries (like Canada and the USA) around 2025 to 2030. If you want to travel on an airliner, do it ASAP or else you will never have an opportunity later because the collapse of industrial civilization will happen within this decade and next decade!
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https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2018/06/thursday-poem-133.html
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“Virtually no place on Earth is free of the polymer fog, after all, from the highest of mountains down to our most intimate organs.
the problem is a growing one, with plastic waste entering our oceans set to double by 2040. As all of those discarded shoes, forks, bread tags, steering wheels and chocolate wrappers break up, a greater concentration of microplastics will gradually find its way into our bloodstream.”
to quote from the post mortem annals of the human race:
almost all species know better than to foul their nest, unfortunately homo sapiens is not one of those, this species has been spectacularly adept at fouling its nest on an unimaginable planetary scale and has sickeningly fouled it for every other species on the planet, when it finally eradicates itself and vast numbers of other species as collateral damage the planet can finally breath a well needed sigh of relief, good bye and good riddance, sadly, the clever ape has been a tad too clever for his own good.
If it’s the dose that makes a poison, it’s possible we might cross a line at some point where relatively harmless traces of styrene and PET could start to have some alarming effects on the way our cells grow. Especially during development.
“We also know in general that babies and young children are more vulnerable to chemical and particle exposure..”That worries me a lot.”
These sapiens have also been extremely competent at ensuring that once fouled the nest remains that way for a very long time, in its degraded, poisonous befouled state, fouling ones nest with just ordinary excrement is extremely benign by comparison:
“Additives added during the manufacture of plastics help to preserve their life cycle. As if the complexity of the molecular chain is not a problem enough when it comes to decomposition, these additives make the job a lot harder…the durability becomes a disadvantage because the effect of those additives need to be broken down before any proper decomposition of plastic can happen…Even after waiting centuries for plastic to finally breakdown, it doesn’t disappear nor become safely absorbed. It just becomes teeny weeny bits of plastic. These microplastics are still as harmful…The result is poorer health and gradual eradication of our species”
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We should correct a grievous error in biological nomenclature, the term “homo sapiens” is certainly a misnomer, I propose we rename the species “homo auto-eradicus” (not to be confused with auto erotic), virtually all species go extinct due to natural forces beyond their control (asteroids, volcanism etc), this is one of the rare perhaps unique species that has cleverly engineered its own extinction or or self eradication.
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I love to talk about all the big problems the Clever Ape has created,when it can’t simply solve the simplest problems.
I don’t follow celebrity news but saw Will Smith slap Chris Rock. No arrest yet? Hell no! Everyone gets a trophy. Keep your hands off other Clever Apes.That’s bullshit for a species that is constantly killing each other. Make sure that the parents of hungry,homeless children get a trophy too. Now of course there will be arguments that some of the children’s suffering can’t be avoided. More bullshit,the parents were not forced to procreate. Special parents,children of other special parents, thinking their children are special & once they are born, the parents aren’t responsible for the misery children experience because it’s someone else’s fault.
Maybe a Go Fund Me page should be started for Near Term Human Extinction. 😉
FMTT! Just told my wife about Smith & Rock & she said Chris Rock could have told a better joke & then would not condemn Smith for the assault. Freedom of speech is sacrosanct until it upsets someone. Acceptance of violence is a virtue?
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Hmmm yet the average “normie” is completely unaware of the impending collapse of industrial civilization although it is also obvious that virtually everyone is constantly unsatisfied and distressed. I know that the source of the problems is agriculture and industrial civilization, yet virtually nobody realizes it. There are lots of scapegoats for humanity’s problems (such as demonic possessions and “socialism” ), but the roots of the problems such as agriculture, industrial civilization, capitalism and etc are completely ignored. The root of humanity’s problems…that is, humans are unable to live harmoniously with the planet’s ecosystems…is never addressed, and humanity continues to believe that false “solutions” such as more technological “development” will “save” them. Not realizing that technological development is what brought humanity to all these problems in the first place I.e. agriculture, internal combustion engines, guns, computers and other human-made technologies that have fucked up the planet’s ecosystems beyond repair.
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In all the value different value systems that the Clever Apes hold as absolute truth, they fail to realize the top priority, don’t screw up your habitat.
The We have arrived at a great moment in time. It’s either Us or Them. True believers know it’s all about ME. 😉
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“Absolute truth” is just b.s. religious fanatics spout. Their religious beliefs are nothing more than egocentric, anthropocentric nonsense that some ignorant superstitious people made up…that cannot be questioned because they are divine “truths” revealed by “God” via “prophets”. Just like the religion of “free” market economics I.e. capitali$m. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, ” free” market economics and all these other man-made constructs are completely detached from the natural world, and instead believe in some make-belief supernatural creator that blessed humans with “free” will and dominion over the Earth. But we “doomers” know that this is all b.s. because there is no God, no supernatural, , no invisible hand of the free market, free will is an illusion, and humanity’s presence on this planet is completely unsustainable, so that humanity’s “domination” over the Earth will be very temporary…in a geological blink of an eye, there will not be a single human left on Earth (as Guy McPherson correctly predicts), soon after industrial civilization catastrophically collapses
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illusions of all sorts will continue to abound and thrive as conditions get worse (like the illusion of mankind’s technological super-omnipotence). It is one thing to contemplate our demise and complete extinction as a species as some far off thing, comfortably generations down the road, but quite another to come to the conclusion that to some extent you and certainly your children (and relatives children) and the young in general if you happen to have a kinder heart will suffer terrible fates in the coming decades, to be aware that the brutal, unrelenting “punishment of humanity” and death toll will already intensify significantly in this decade but certainly will reach cataclysmic levels in the next 2 or 3 decades.
It is certainly not a comforting thought to know that we will all be swept away in the coming tidal wave (metaphor for endless types of worsening disasters, the natural world is unforgiving), for some it may be mercifully quick (quick for many maybe if the breakdown is so destabilizing it leads to full out nuclear war, humankinds suicidal last hurrah, certainly for “doomers” not such an horrific pathway to extinction at this point) for others it will be protracted and replete with unimaginable suffering.
Interesting that many see “doomers” as folks once saw lepers in the middle ages, to be shunned and avoided at all costs, a sad bunch of super-pessimistic sour-pusses and debbie downer buzzkills insanely and perversely hell bent on pissing on our glorious capitalist system (illusions….?), a bunch of cranks, crackpots with twisted psyches that just get their kicks pissing on the resplendent neoliberal parade of shining achievements, cultish true-believers that just get their kicks digging up every thing they can ferret out in the media that reeks of disaster.
I for one reject the title of “doomer” if you want to call me a realist thats just fine. Believe me, for years I searched for rays of hope, either that nature would flip more slowly to give us time to end our insanity or that mankind would come to its senses in time, for both what has transpired is the diametrical opposite. To paraphrase dear old Hoover I no longer believe that “salvation is just around the corner”.
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very well put, humans have been f****** up the planet way back since the dawn of civilisation, its just their capacity to do so has exponentially increased.
“Since the 16th century, humans have driven at least 680 vertebrate species to extinction…Over the past 125,000 years, the average size of mammals on the Earth has shrunk. And humans are to blame.”
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Even before the dawn of agriculture and civilization, Homo Sapiens has been wiping out megafauna as hunter and gatherers. Like the Woolly Mammoth. Wherever prehistoric humans colonized, a wave of megafauna extinctions soon followed. Of course, the development of agriculture and civilization is what exponentially increased humanity’s destruction of the natural world.
For example, the invention of the axe allowed humans to harvest wood much more efficiently than just breaking off branches of a tree, and this eventually led to deforestation of much of the world before the Industrial Revolution even began. This inevitably lead to destruction of natural habitat for species. The development of more efficient weapons allowed humans to hunt wild animals more efficiently, leading to more biodiversity loss.
It started with stone axes, and then progressed to bronze and iron axes. Eventually, progressing to chain saws leading to more efficient deforestation /habitat destruction. As for weapons, it started with stone and wooden spears/ arrows for hunting wild animals, and then progressed to metal spears, swords, daggers, traps, crossbows, etc. And then firearms like muskets, and finally the super-efficient firearms of today to make hunting and wiping out wildlife even more efficiently.
Of course, we don’t just use these weapons to kill wildlife and non-human animals. We use these weapons for killing other human beings too.
Humans are easily the most destructive, dangerous, violent and rapacious creature to ever walk the face of the Earth.
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Well looks like old “senile”, avuncular Joe is going to flex his muscles once more and invoke the DPA to force a resurgence of mining. The biblical farce of addressing one problem, eg climate change, by recklessly polluting and gutting the earth on a more massive scale is just more insane capitalist hocus-pocus (not to belabor the point: hocus-pocus = $$$$$$$…) and just another round in the game of mutually ensured extinction, by god we’re gonna whip this planet into shape come hell or high water…
Once again most people have no idea how horrendously destructive of the environment mining is, it literally is a litany of horrors, if you want some details:
https://web.mit.edu/12.000/www/m2016/finalwebsite/problems/mining.html
The people that have suffered the most are indigenous groups, but that’s nothing new we have been gleefully slaughtering them since the americas were discovered, whats the big deal that we pollute, poison and desecrate their water and land, its in keeping with a glorious tradition of genocide, this DPA will just be a heavy handed tool to ram the sh** down their throats no objections please (thanks to the DPA we can use the army to deal with any griping natives like we used to do in the good old days, side note indigenous peoples aren’t mentioned all that much in CRT debates either probably as there are so few of them left).
“”Expanding mining without addressing the shortcomings of our archaic mining laws would be disastrous,” she warned. “More than a century of reckless mining has poisoned the air, water, and land of too many communities.”
“Mining is the #1 toxic polluter in the US, yet @POTUS wants to expand domestic mining for clean energy”
“”I believe this is gonna be the second coming of environmental destruction. The first we’re in now is the climate crisis from the fossil fuel industry, and I believe this next one will be lithium mining.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/31/conservationists-biden-clean-energy-transition-cannot-be-built-dirty-mining
of course most mining companies get away with the sacred blessing of never having to clean up the toxic mess they leave behind (moral of the capitalist story: its always better to sh** in someone elses nest), once massively polluted, gutted and destroyed out of sigh out of mind for the big macho capitalist boys (f*** them and forget them).
Mentioned deep sea mineral mining in a previous post, love this quote, so beautifully expresses the capitalist can-do, lets make a buck attitude:
“Mining them, he says, would be as simple as vacuuming golf balls off a putting green.”
But damn these environmentalists, they are like a fly in the ointment, what a frigging nuisance to our grandiose plans of gutting the ocean floors:
“The ocean environment is already under threat from climate change, overfishing, industrial pollution and plastic debris, they argue; added stresses from heavy machinery and habitat destruction could tip it over the edge.
“If this goes wrong, it could trigger a series of unintended consequences that messes with ocean stability, ultimately affecting life everywhere on earth…”
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Yes. The devastation caused by ocean-floor trawling is horrendous. The ocean-floor mining will be worse.
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Megan Seibert gets it.
https://mahb.stanford.edu/blog/dont-make-me-watch-the-new-climate-film-celebrates-malpractice-martyrdom-and-enviros-of-all-stripes-are-cheering-it-on/
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Lots of valid points in Seibert’s article, but as many others (myself included) have stated in numerous posts on this site (hard core, hard bitten doomer hang out where only the intrepid dare venture) there is no path left to have a hope in hell to eek out some measure of salvation for our species and most others as well (could there have been a sliver of hope 30 or 50 years ago had humanity taken drastic action in a timely fashion not scoffing at the first canaries in the coal mine, eg Hansen, Mann…, maybe, but that too is highly debatable as we have been exponentially increasing our relentless destruction of the biosphere in innumerable other ways like a rolling armada of juggernauts, its just that climate change is going to hit us the first and the hardest). In any case the what-ifs is mere silly pillow talk, it is an absolutely idiotic fantasy that capitalism could even remotely morphe in any way to address the crisis that would have made beans of difference to our ultimate fate. The die is cast at this point, we no longer have any say in the final outcome, even if that were not the case it is clear that this terribly late in the game we are still hurling in the wrong direction, for example the war in Ukraine has led to shoving any action to address climate change further back in the bus, this absurd war has become a sad excuse for even more forceful, overpowering cries that the gluttony of fossil fuels continue unabated.
We are simply a bunch of bickering, silly ants having at each other (in dubious battle on the plains of heaven…) till the heavy boot comes down hard and puts an abrupt end to our petty absurd squabbling. There are so many unstoppable self-reinforcing feedback loops now in play as many folks on this site have cogently written about that the only question now is how fast and how forcefully will nature’s fist (to be anthropomorphic) slam into humanity.
“It’s Beyond My Control….”
When I watched “Les Liaisons Dangereuses”, I like to think of Vicomte de Valmont as the raw personification of capitalism, hypocritically bemoaning addiction to fossil fuels and industrial exploitation…and the sobbing, horrified crushed Madame de Tourvel
as suffering humanity regretting their blind faith in the capitalist system that lead them to their cruel doom.
see if you can relish the dialogue in that context:
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Just FYI, the whole capitalist system originated from the sin of usury, which is the idea that you must pay interest on the money that you burrowed. This “secret” is never mentioned by mainstream media or in your economics class for some strange reason.
Like Michael Ruppert once mentioned, our whole economic system (aka capitalism) is based on the idea that you must pay back more money than the amount of money you burrowed. So let’s say you burrowed 100 dollars from a bank, and the interest rate is 6%. You must not only pay back the 100 dollars, but an addition 6% of the original loan (an extra $6 ) for a total of 106 dollars of loan payment. The bank keeps the extra 6 dollars you paid as interest as profit.
Interest-based loans was how capitalism began in the late Middle Ages circa 14th/15th century. Later in the 16th century, capitalism “progressed” to stealing from the commons and hiring people to convert those stolen resources into profit.
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Here is a quote to back up the fact that capitalism started with ( and is based off of usury) aka interest bearing loans
“””No economic activity was more irrepressible [in the 14th century] than the investment and lending at interest of money; it was the basis for the rise of the Western capitalist economy and the building of private fortunes-and it was based on the sin of usury.
Barbara Tuchman”””
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Here is another quote that shows the origins of capitalism is based off of usury or interesting-bearing loans:
“””But though Usury is in itself immoral, and justly condemned by every ethical code, its chief and worst defect in the particular case we are now examining, the growth of Capitalism and its increasing proletariat, is the centralization of irresponsible control over the lives of men: the putting power over the proletariat into the hands of a few who can direct the loans of currency and credit without which that proletariat could not be fed and clothed and maintained in work.
Hilaire Belloc”””
In short, capitalism cannot exist without usury.
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No matter what is happening in the rest of the world, my faith in America is renewed. Two mass shootings this weekend. We kill our own which the majority accepts or they would stop it.
The right to keep & bear arms shall not be infringed regardless of how many Americans die. Wonder how much fun a collapsing America will be with 440,000,000 firearms? America’s new motto? – Death & Destruction!
A society cannot stop crime but it can make the punishment so harsh that the perp might not commit another crime.I’ll be glad to join the crew that metes out the prescribed penalty. I like the rule; Kill someone & we kill you back. Alternative solution,don’t kill anyone. Now I have to listen to, what about defending one’s self,others & property? Thanks for the stupid pretzel logic question.
I’ve got fewer tomorrows than yesterdays. ~ 8,000,000,000 don’t realize how few tomorrows they have left. 😉
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Well, just FYI the weapons and firearms industry is a big source of revenue and profit, so there will be no disruption to the never-ending production, distribution and sales of firearms.
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I agree completely. In America this is what the majority wants or they would stop it.
I do enjoy all the weapons that allow one to kill at a distance & not get blood on their hands. Damn,we are proficient killers. I’m looking forward to the point where Americans are killing other Americans with their drones. Those might be hard crimes to solve, if killing actually becomes a make one wish they were dead, punishable crime. Now let’s all go buy some killing tools. 😉
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Well the IPCC is now announcing the distressing news, we are now at a stage where cutting back on co2 emissions is not enought we MUST get this stuff out of the atmosphere to have any hope in hell on not exceeding 2.0C and wiping ourselves out. Mankinds handling of the climate crisis is already absurd beyond belief but this is the most farcical head banging bull shit remotely imaginable: that we can scale up co2/methane removal to have even the slightest impact is a madmans delusional fantasy (might be easier if you just chill out and crawl into the metaverse, Zuck is there to welcome you with open arms…).
“Most emissions removal options, however, come with substantial, and in some cases untenable, tradeoffs.” (and require vast amounts of energy).
“The jury has reached a verdict and it is damning…we are on a fast track to climate disaster.”
Carbon capture and removal is a monumental con pushed by the fossil fuel oligarchs and fat cats and their paid subservient lackeys the politicians (classic have your cake and eat it)…yeah its cool man, we can go on making obscene profits till kingdom come, raking in the moola, extracting every last drop till it all runs dry because no worries my friend we’ll just suck all this shit out of the atmosphere. cool you down a bit (of course its all you dumb ass tax payers that are going to foot the bill to make this little miracle happen or like everything else we’ll just put it on the tab for future generations to cough up the moola, or maybe just not to worry as the dollar will collapse anyway), everything will continue to be hunky dory on this fine planet of ours…
“The Biden administration is really doubling down on the fossil economy and the false solutions that are entrenching that fossil economy in the name of addressing the climate crisis”
“It’s not about taking our foot off the accelerator anymore—it’s about slamming on the brakes…”
well sorry to break the news, with the new side show known as the Ukraine war and the resurfacing world wide “cold” war and absurd nationalistic jingoism we are gung ho pushing down on that accelerator ever harder, its going to be one hell of a joy ride over the cliff and as its a foregone conclusion that extreme right wingers (euphemistically referred to as fascists or best described as a death cult feeding greedily like leeches off the vast stupidity and cultivated ignorance of the masses) will be running the show soon and will double down on fossil fuels to the hilt (that pedal will be down to the floor and that baby is gonna be flying down the road…like no tomorrow).. good luck with all your shouting from the roof tops that the world is going to hell, gosh darn it come to your senses…we are careening down that one track road to perdition…
The mouth pieces at the IPCC and all the naive squirming once shuttered scientists (shitting their pants ever more frenetically in horror as their models reveal ever more shocking nightmarish, unfathomable outcomes) can bitch and moan all they want with their “dire”, the clock is ticking warnings till the till the chickens come home to roost, they will have absolutely zero impact on the capitalist juggernaut of annihilation.
to quote the wise man:
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”
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And what are the chances of removing excess CO2 from the atmosphere quickly enough to avert abrupt climate change, which is already well-underway? Probably zero chance of that ever happening.
And ironically, so called “renewable” energies–like solar panels and wind turbines–might accelerate the collapse of industrial civilization by accelerating the rate at which humans mine and extract various metallic ores (like nickel, cobalt, aluminium and silicon). Which are all non-renewable and finite resources, just like fossil fuels. But that won’t stop humans from maximizing the extraction of mineral ores because business-as-usual (BAU) must continue…until can no longer continue from depletion and pollution. Just look up any image of a mines (coal mine, bauxite mine, iron mine, etc) and you will see the scale of these mines is unbelievable…hundreds, if not thousands, of meters deep, and dozens of square kilometers in area for just one mine!
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All anyone needs to know, 1:22 – 1:47
There are no shortages. There are too many Clever Apes. 8,000,000,000 will learn soon.
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It is also worth noting that all of the major technological breakthroughs were made many decades ago…the latest major technological breakthrough was the invention and mass manufacturing of microchips in the 1960s, which lead to the development of PCs (Personal Computers), the Internet, video games and smartphones. And other telecommunication devices centered around microchips. There has been NO major technological development in the 21st century, contrary to what the mainstream media says. The only “breakthrough” invention in the 21st century is the invention of smartphones…but really that isn’t a breakthrough invention because smartphones are just computers shrunk down in size. The last major breakthrough invention was the microchip, which made communication faster and more efficient. But all it really did, in reality, was allow corporations to spread advertisements and marketing propaganda more efficiently via the Internet.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention that the invention of microchips (and subsequently all of these fancy telecommunication devices) won’t have been possible without man’s prior exploitation of fossil fuels…every molecule of a computer or smartphone is a by-products of fossil fuels. Everything from the plastic case of your computer, to the microchips, harddrives, semi-conductors, diodes and touchscreen is a by-products of complex industrial processes powered by or made out of raw materials synthesized from petrochemicals and fossil fuels (petroleum, coal and natural gas).
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Just want to leave you with some comforting quotes from the great man himself, the venerable iconclastic Chomsky:
“We are now facing the prospect of destruction of organized human life on Earth.”
“It’s just gotten worse,” he said. “We are now facing the prospect of destruction of organized human life on Earth.”
“grim cloud of fascism”
“With the Democratic Party in the U.S. facing plummeting poll numbers and failing to deliver bold climate action and anti-poverty measures, the government could soon be in the hands of the Republican Party—barely regards climate change as a serious problem…That’s a death warrant to the species,” he said.
As remarked in a perceptive post already (Random Cool Stuff), society will certainly implode and cannabilize itself with massive social and economic collapse taking itself down, turning on itself in a violent orgy of self-inflicted chaos, death and destruction long before the full impact of the accelerating planetary horrors finally pounds what remains of us into oblivion (this overriding fact needs to be factored in when contemplating the timetable of our near term annihilation). One thing capitalism is not is resilient to massive destructive forces and upheavals in fact it is remarkably fragile in this respect (“The planet is dying faster than we thought”…much, much faster). Just look at the US response to a relatively benign pandemic (what if the pandemic was highly transmissable and wiped out 10 or 20% of the population or more, crippling research efforts, wreaking havoc, that might well happen with the next one eg CFR: SARS-CoV 10%, MERS-CoV 34%, EBOLA ~ 50%, US seasonal flu 0.1% to 0.2%) where the US being only 4% of the worlds population had over 20% of deaths, this is how the US stacks up against so many other backward, poverty stricken, underdeveloped 3rd world countries, a record level death toll in a country that boasts of having the most advanced medical facilities in the world (in reality an extremely cruel predatory, inhumane system designed only to maximize profit and one completely oblivious to untold numbers of its citizens dying due to lack of medical care or going bankrupt trying to pay for it).
Ironically our advanced technology has made us far more fragile and vulnerable than ever. For example, think how frighteningly vulnerable we now are than a 100 years ago to a massive CME events, eg geomagnetic storm, sure to come at some point, that would wreak total havoc with all our digital tech paralyzing us, we are overdue for one, or the speed at which a pandemic now spreads compared to back then or its far greater likelihood due to industrial scale farming and habitat destruction.
Complexity theory tells us that the more complex and highly interconnected (think global financial systems etc with meltdowns…) a system is the more potential failure points it has and the more vulnerable it is to cascading, propagating, run-away failures leading to implosions and collapse. Certainly this applies to the manifold and countless ways humans are relentlessly destroying the biosphere where warming, chemical pollution, acidification industrial agriculture and industry all interact in complicated unforeseen ways to synergistically compound their destructive effects.
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I guess Pink Floyd sums it up; “Breath deep the gathering gloom”.
There are plenty of “bed sitter people” in for an uncomfortable future & they will “battle lament”?
“In issuing its call-to-action, WHO notes that 99% of people breathe unhealthy air mainly resulting from burning of fossil fuels.”
https://www.who.int/news/item/06-04-2022-who-urges-accelerated-action-to-protect-human-health-and-combat-the-climate-crisis-at-a-time-of-heightened-conflict-and-fragility
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“As Climate Fears Mount, Some in U.S. Are Deciding to Relocate”
There is already a climate driven exodus from the western US to the east, like lemmings humans are scurrying around in panic to (presumably ?) safer havens from climate change, desperate to find a safe nest to roost, and as brainless as lemmings they dont challenge the system that is pushing them to migrate out of fear and dread but meekly accept their fates imposed on them by their corporate masters.
Ironically with ever advancing technology, fewer and fewer need to be trained to think, an ever tinier sliver of humans is required to run the impressive techno-show destroying humanity, and as a consequence astounding levels of sheer ignorance abound, unfathomable stupidity, magic thought, irrationality harking back to medieval times has only intensified, spewing out its maniacal insane drivel in social media by the shit load. “Education” has sunk to the most abysmal levels imaginable (by design of course) as evidenced by QAnon and an endless roll call of crazy, absurd cults, extreme religious fanaticism characteristic of end times, blind uncritical worshiping of religious or political fraudsters, disgusting snake-oil salesmen, con-artists and shameless sell-outs to rampant corporatism, scum-bags that would sell their own mothers to advance their careers, endlessly figuring out how to bamboozle and screw over their faithful submissive flocks reverently adoring and worshiping them…to paraphrase: politics is the last refuge of the scoundrel. These are the masses that blindly swallow the endless deception and lies corporate media spews, I could go on and on…, nothing serves the corporate oligarchy better than such a (for all intents and purposes) “euthanized”, brain-dead populace, as passive, compliant and hopelessly deluded as sheep to the slaughter (and slaughtered they will be).
Colleges and universities are complicit in this monstrosity of pseudo-educational malfeasance, they have rapaciously and self-servingly collaborated with their co-partners in crime, corporate parasites, to screw young students just coming of age (and sadly older folks too who should know better) to the hilt financially, eagerly encouraging them to incur ridiculous mountains of debt that will darken and burden their lives for umpteen years if they can even ever acquit themselves of it. All this to feed the endless gluttony and gravy train of smug fat cat, parasitic college administrators that lord it over once respectable but now degenerate institutions of so-called “higher learning” (and I am not just talking about the steaming felonious shit pile of sanctioned thievery known as for profit colleges), masquerading as centers of “excellence”, hoarding ever more massive obscene endowments on the backs of students they have financially pillaged and raped (ever hear of a once glorious institution known as Trump University, now sadly defunct, boasting many a proud alumnus, I am sure).
These “institutions” understand where their bread is buttered in the corporate scheme of things and that they must no longer concern themselves with teaching students critical thought in a wider cultural context but their mandate is only to churn out obedient, servile, unquestioning techo-cogs that have been conditioned to turn off and shut down all critical thought about the world around them except what is absolutely and indispensably needed to perform at their little techno-tasks, like clever rats taught to run a maze or horses outfitted with blinders, dutifully pulling mankinds load into oblivion (look at all the liberal arts and humanities programs being shut down, cannot make a buck there indulging in that crap).
How else can you explain all these, elite, skilled, “intelligent”, highly trained technocrats and/or bureaucrats eagerly scrambling to lead at the head of the pack, happily, blithely cheerleading us over the cliff as long as they can rake in the moola in the here and now (what a beautiful smooth running system that has very successfully churned out intelligent high functioning cogs, inculcating them to not look at the “bigger picture”, extinction or whatever you want to call it, heaven forbid, lets not contemplate anything beyond their immediate paycheck).
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University education is a joke. Like you mentioned, it just trains people to be obedient to the system of industrial capitalism. Be a good consumer and wageslave. And never question the myths of technological “progress”and ” free” market capitalism. Very few people understand how doomed humanity really is. Very few people realize that within the next couple of decades, there probably won’t be any humans alive on this planet. Very few people realize that industrial civilization’s catastrophic collapse is an inevitability.
As for technological progress, there is very little–if any–major technological breakthroughs in the 21st century. All of the major technological breakthroughs and scientific discoveries (like microchips, internal combustion engines and the periodic table of elements) were invented and discovered many decades/centuries ago. Humanity is literally running out of new technologies to invent.
Yet the mainstream media gives the masses the illusion that there is non-stop technological “progress” happening in the 2020s by clever marketing and advertising. Like coming up with a new iPhone every year to display the on-going technological “progress” to the masses. But this is just planned obsolescence. Selling the same thing over and over again by using clever marketing and advertising gimmicks to fool the masses into thinking that we live in an era of rapid, never-ending technological advancements. But the truth is there hasn’t been any breakthrough technological development made in many decades.
And of course, very few people realize that all modern technologies are simply by-products of cheap and abundant fossil fuels (I.e. coal, petroleum and natural gas). And technologies are also dependent on other finite, non-renewable, irreplaceable and rapidly depleting natural resources aka mineral and metallic ores such as copper, aluminium, tin, tungsten, silicon and gold. Very few people realize how technology and science actually works…that technology is simply a by-product of finite and non renewable fossil fuels and mineral resources (that have to be mined and extracted from the Earth’s crust)
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Go ahead & piss off an Ukrainian woman.
Please don’t say anything negative about this link when U.S.A.! ,U.S.A!, U.S.A.! kills Iraqi women & children with shock & awe & a war based on America’s Republican’s WMD lies. I prefer to not call Americans hypocrites unless they are.
Let’s make a list of those that the truth pisses off.
In the future I shall be addressed as Mr. Unfiltered. 😉
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Bet an Ukrainian Woman would tell these to stop stupid protest & buy a sickle.
I don’t care what anybody says, war is entertaining.
We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond
Who comes on at five
She can tell you ’bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It’s interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry – Don Henley
The hits are hot & heavy.
https://www.euronews.com/2022/04/13/protest-held-outside-tallinn-s-russian-embassy-against-women-raped-in-war
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Just FYI even if industrial civilization collapses in the near future and carbon emissions suddenly dropped to zero, that still won’t save us from abrupt climate change because of all of damage that has already been done to the climate over the past couple of decades. I do predict (like I mentioned earlier on this thread) the collapse of industrial civilization to likely occur sometime between 2025 to 2030…and the most obvious sign of SHTF happening would be the failure of both the electricity grid and global supply chains. Once the electricity grid permanently goes out, then you can be fairly certain that SHTF has happened. Let’s just hope that our favorite doomer/SHTF sites stay online until SHTF literally happens. And btw, everyday that passes is literally one day closer to SHTF…expect SHTF to happen within this decade or next decade (at the latest). The signs of SHTF are everywhere ranging from the rapidly disappearing natural world, human society becoming more dysfunctional everyday, massive amounts of pollution , abrupt climate change, peak oil, overpopulation (and yes even in a low-population density country like Canada, it is very obvious that cities in Canada are severely overpopulated by humans), overconsumption via mass advertisement and marketing campaigns by corporations, poverty/crime/homelessness skyrocketing and etc. We are truly living in the end times!
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well very, very sad, climatologists/scientists have now taken to gluing and chaining themselves to buildings in exasperated protest at mans endless folly, of course their desperate media stunts will have absolutely zero impact on the powers that be and in any case are totally drowned out by the non stop media barrage drowning their mesmerized viewers in war porn, desperate to shock and horrify with every gory detail they can dig up or conjure up on the war in Ukraine (imagine if there was even a fraction of this level of coverage on all the atrocities past and present elsewhere in the world, Yemen etc, instead of near zero, no need to shine any light on our butchering, bone saw toting Saudi friends, sipping their morning tea while enjoying mass executions of their critics). Doubt these eggheads would have any more of an impact if they doused themselves with gasoline and set themselves on fire.
“We are heading towards a F*** catastrophe,” NASA climate scientist breaks down as he chains self to JPMorgan building’s door…”
With tears in his eyes, Kalmus said, “This is for all of the kids of the world, all of the young people, all of the future people. This is so much bigger than any of us.”
Another juicy tidbit courtesy of Jeffrey St Clair (Counterpunch, Roaming Charges):
“A single Tesla battery weighing 1,000 pounds requires extracting and processing some 500,000 pounds of materials. At this rate, over the next thirty years we will need to mine more mineral ores than humans have extracted over the last 70,000 years.”
Puts things in perspective when you weigh Tesla’s claim they are going to save the planet (what part ? the one that hasn’t been dug up, gutted and excavated yet ?)
“the biggest culprits, who enjoy carbon impunity. As long as there is coal, gas and oil to burn, and the plants to burn them, they will be burned. And there’s still lots of fossil fuel in reserve and a vast infrastructure for consuming it.”
The IPCC report essentially throws in the towel on the possibility of radically reducing carbon emissions. (At this point it’s unlikely that their increase can even be restrained.) Instead, they focus on the chimera of carbon-capture and removal schemes that rely on unproven and even dubious technologies that will attract subsidy and tax-credit hungry corporations but do little if anything to keep the planet from blowing past 1.5C and toward 2C.
Laughing all the way to the bank of course, probably joking inside the building about these nutty, disruptive, hare brained scientists chaining themselves to the building before being carted off, pleading with humanity to heed their warnings, shouting in despair, possibly interrupting their morning coffee routine…
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Depends on your definition of “a lot of fossil fuels left” . Certainly the easy-to-extract, high ERoEI fossil fuels is mostly depleted at this point. What remains is low ERoEI fossil fuels that will take more and more energy and resources to extract, and yet provide less and less energy in return. The low-hanging fruit of high ERoEI fossil fuels is already gone at this point. Especially for petroleum. While there is theoretically “a lot” of coal left, this doesn’t matter because coal extraction and transportation is dependent on petroleum-powered machines. And it is petroleum that powers the global supply chains. Not coal.
Once the net energy for fossil fuels (especially for petroleum) drops below a certain threshold in the near future, the global supply chains combined with the electrical grid will both collapse. The permanent failure of both the global supply chains and electrical grid means the collapse of industrial civilization. And once the electrical grid is permanently gone, that will mean the meltdown of nuclear reactors. Meaning nuclear waste will spread across air currents of the globe.
And the amount of greenhouse gas currently in the atmosphere is already enough to raise global average temperature by 4 degrees Celsius (above pre-Industrial levels) by 2040 to 2050. Plus, when industrial civilization collapses whatever particles we are producing to keep global temperatures from rising will be gone , meaning almost immediate rise in global temperatures without the aerosol masking effect.
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I just wanted you to know that I appreciate all of your comments very much. Keeping it real. The peace (sort of) of acceptance.
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your are abolutely right, Random Cool Stuff wish you were not but sadly have absolutely no quibbles with your assessment. The situation is abolutely hopeless at this point. The war in Ukraine and its fossil impact is just one more nail in the coffin but anyone that is not brain dead realizes its all over irrespective of the latest stupidity
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I live in southern Ontario, and I went outdoors earlier today. And the good news is that there are still some wild animals left…a couple of Canadian Geese, a few seagulls, some song birds, several squirrels, three turkey vultures and three raccoons. I saw them at a local park/wild life “protected” area. Unfortunately, all of the area surrounding the park was under development…roads, buildings, farmland and all of this is still being built despite the Covid-19 pandemic…it seems very obvious that the natural world is disappearing right before us, yet most people can’t bother to notice this reality. Apparently, most people are more considered about celebrity gossip (or some other pointless crap) than realize that the natural world aka the biodiversity of this planet is rapidly disappearing. Cars and roads/highways btw make it impossible for wildlife to migrate between busy traffic areas. Our rampant road building has dissected the Earth’s surface into areas too small to support any significant amounts of wildlife. And every passing year, I notice that the wild life on this planet is rapidly disappearing. Humanity’s presence on this planet is truly unsustainable!
Since the advent of agriculture and civilization, humans have displaced the vast majority of the planet’s wild life with crops, domesticated livestock , cities and other amenities of human civilization. I believe about 97% of the terrestrial vertebrate biomass is now humans and our livestock (I.e. chickens, horses, cows, pigs, sheep, dogs and cats). Wild animals (I.e wild tigers, rhinoceros, elephants, eagles and raccoons) only compromise of 3% of the terrestrial vertebrate biomass. And invertebrates are fairing no better because during recent years, there has been a rapid decline of insects because of industrial civilization.
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I have been following the on going drought disaster in the West. The last 2 years have brought little to no snowpack in the West. My husband and I traveled from Washington state to Colorado for the past two years for Christmas. I have never seen it so dry before and i was sounding the alarm bells at how bad this is for water out West. I am just now starting to see signs of these alarm bells in the article’s starting to surface in the press. I have a degree in water resources and i can tell you if this continues, the West will not exist by 2030 the way this is going. The reservoirs will run dry and the power will become non-existent. It also looks like there is general drying of the interior of the United States since the drought keeps extending further east. Not sure how long many of the big aquifers will last either, like Ogallola aquifer only has a couple years at most from what i have been reading. As with all of the on going disasters, add this on to the growing list of ‘we are toast’.
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There is only one solution? Produce many more heat engine, carbon burning Clever Apes & their brilliance will surely solve all of mankind’s problems. They could always pray for a miracle,one of their many gods might preform.
“I will not go quietly.” you very special,self absorbed offspring of the same.
Please!, no one be upset. Just pointing out hypocrisy. Sad they didn’t learn anything from the other 108,000,000,000 Clever Apes that lived on this rock,previously.
I’m considering a new career in stand up comedy. 😉
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bemoaning the fact that the american west is fast becoming an arid dessicated desert and a never ending raging bonfire of burning woodlands spewing massive amounts of smoke and co2, and that it will soon suffer devastating agricultural collapse and the end of farming and in the not too distant future flatly be inhospitable to life (barring perhaps gila monsters and horned toads but that is problematic too) is ironic and may just be poetic justice for so many others on this burning planet, for far too long many here could indulge and cocoon themselves with the comforting self-centered fantasy that the 3rd world, the billions of poor down trodden human refuse would bear the brutal brunt of climate change and that somehow we would be comfortably insulated for quite a while from the disaster of our own making, sure, let the SOBs die miserable deaths as long as its not in my backyard. We could merrily go on driving our big gas guzzling pickups, SUVs, luxuriate in obscene lifestyles while easily tuning out and ignoring the sheer suffering and agony of millions that contributed the least to global warming. Well 115 degree heat waves and 1200 year drought in the northwest and canada sure punctured that delusional fantasy. Perhaps draining the last drops from the aquifers in a final act of desperation (and already leading to vicious internecine fighting and squabbling for the last remaining water sources, humans can get pretty darn nasty when push comes to shove) will keep things going for a little while longer (old adage, humans will never lay off till they become extinct) but not much to be sure…the SHTF is only going to accelerate with devastating effects way faster than we ever imagined…
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Everything seems normal right now in Canada…although it is only a matter of time when energy shortage/climate-induced global famine, supply chain break downs and electrical grid blackouts start causing chaos across the globe…killing billions of people around the world. There is no “safe” place to hide when industrial civilization does start to collapse. It is questionable whether any humans will survive the aftermath, to be honest.
I do believe humanity’s near term extinction is inevitable because it is obvious from our current activities and thousands of years of history, that humanity’s presence on this planet is completely unsustainable. Humans have been destroying wilderness and wild life for thousands of years, and there really isn’t much more of the planet’s biosphere for humans to destroy…since we already displaced the overwhelming majority of wild life with the biomass of humans/livestock/crops. Remember 97% of the terrestrial vertebrate biomass is humans and our domesticated livestock (horses, cows, pigs, chickens and etc). Only 3% of the terrestrial vertebrate biomass is wild animals (tigers, elephants, rhinos and etc). And humanity’s destruction of the ocean’s biosphere is equally destructive…ocean acidification, plastic waste dumped into the oceans, overfishing, poaching, invasive species and etc. Speaking of invasive species, humans are, by far, the most destructive invasive species to ever exist on this planet. 8 billion humans, plus our livestock/crops, plus our army of fossil-fuel powered machines are irreversibly destroying the planet’s biosphere and will soon annihilate most higher life forms on this planet.
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I agree. Thank you very much for your thoughts. It’s a strange comfort to know that there are a few others who see what’s coming. And it may seem OK in Canada but the collapse is well underway in more vulnerable countries. Just look (one of my favorite doomer sites)
https://climateandeconomy.com/2022/04/23/23rd-april-2022-todays-round-up-of-economic-news/
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Even without fossil-fuel powered industrialization, humans destroyed the overwhelming majority of wilderness and wildlife in much of the world before the Industrial Revolution. Thanks to the Industrial Revolution, we are now capable of destroying whatever wilderness/wildlife is left…until overpopulation/overconsumption, resource depletion, climate change and environmental degradation causes industrial civilization to catastrophically collapse in the foreseeable future. And shortly afterwards, probably NTE for humankind.
The following article sums up the human predicament very well. Even though it was written in 1995, it sums up the inevitable nature of ecological overshoot and collapse.
https://dieoff.com/page137.htm
The following quote from that article explains why human NTE will likely result from the collapse of industrial civilization:
“”Or it may prove impossible for even a few survivors to subsist on the meager resources left in civilization’s wake. The children of the highly technological society into which more and more of the world’s peoples are being drawn will not know how to support themselves by hunting and gathering or by simple agriculture. In addition, the wealth of wild animals that once sustained hunting societies will be gone, and topsoil that has been spoiled by tractors will yield poorly to the hoe. A species that has come to depend on complex technologies to mediate its relationship with the environment may not long survive their loss”””
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I believe the first person to realize the collapse of industrial civilization and NTE was Douglas Dixon. In one of his books called After Man: A Zoology of the Future, he predicted that industrial civilization will eventually collapse, leading to the extinction of Homo sapiens. Here is the quote where he mentions the collapse of industrial civilization:
“Ultimately the Earth could no longer supply the raw materials needed for man’s agriculture, industry or medicine, and as shortage of supply caused the collapse of one structure after another, his whole complex and interlocking social and technological edifice crumbled. Man, no longer able to adapt, rushed uncontrollably to his inevitable extinction”
It is amazing how someone in 1982 already predicted what will soon manifest I.e. the collapse of industrial civilization.
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With humongous bonfires raging across the globe including the once deeply frozen arctic/siberia let it never be said that mankind isn’t going out in a blaze of glory….
You can even throw in a little fireworks to spice up the show with the spontaneous awesome methane explosions in Siberia leaving massive 200 foot craters…
yee haw !!! the only thing that could best this show nature is putting on for us is full out nuclear war, crazy how many here think lately that would be pretty cool too !
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William Vogt’s “Road to Survival” was published in 1948. Thomas Malthus was probably the earliest Malthusian. (joke). ‘Overshoot’ by William Catton was published in 1980.
The ‘Standard Run’ in ‘Limits to Growth” (1972) .
Never mind, Elon Musk reckons the planet can support ‘many times’ the present population,so everything’s sweet.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-00111-8
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Hopium= delusional optimism = false hope. Hopium is a sign of a dying and decaying society and culture because the reality of the “collapse of industrial civilization/NTE for humanity” is too difficult for most people to accept. Hence, humanity must drown itself in false hope…and pretend that CoIC will never happen…even though it is right in front of us. I am personally fed up this hopium crap…because I am fed up of all the lies the mainstream media is telling people, but it won’t matter soon when CoIC does literally happen…which is inevitable at this point. When CoIC does happen, I doubt any amount of hopium will hide the brutal fact that NTE is right in front of us.
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William Vogt’s “Road to Survival” was published in 1948. Thomas Malthus was probably the earliest Malthusian. (joke). ‘Overshoot’ by William Catton was published in 1980.
The ‘Standard Run’ in ‘Limits to Growth” (1972) .
Never mind, Elon Musk reckons the planet can support ‘many times’ the present population,so everything’s sweet.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-00111-8
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The speed of collapse is directly proportionate to the level of bullshit propagated before the collapse. Given the insane level of delusional optimism and b.s. happening, the collapse will probably be very catastrophic and abrupt. To be honest, I don’t care about “saving” nature…because nature is already doomed from humanity’s activities. But the “good” news is the more people that are added onto this planet, ironically, the less chance there will be anyone surviving when SHTF does actually happen.
As industrial civilization increases in its scale and complexity via increased population and increased consumption, the chances of anyone surviving becomes more and more unlikely. So I see nothing wrong with not breeding because I already knew for many years that humanity is doomed in the near future. So it won’t make any sense to reproduce in order to continue the human species’ existence on Earth…since we are probably gonna be amongst the last humans to ever walk on the face of the Earth.
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well you can already see it happening, chef nature’s gradually turning up the heat until humans will actually start frying to death by the millions:
“Nearly the hottest place on Earth right now, India swelters under intense heat wave”
hottest March since the India Meteorological Department began keeping records 122 years ago.
The heat has also increased the demand for power in the country, which has resulted in electricity shortages in some regions…hospitals are seeing increased demand from patients suffering from heatstroke.
the heat wave, which has come earlier than many of India’s worst, is increasing the fire danger in the country. Burns at landfills also contribute to poor air quality, … air quality on Thursday was at dangerous levels. Fires in Delhi’s dump yards also contribute to the toxic air in the world’s most polluted capital.
High wet bulb temperatures are of particular concern in India, where most of the country’s 1.4 billion people live in rural areas without access to air conditioners or cooling stations.
More exciting news and food for thought and moment of serious reflection:
“Warning on Mass Extinction of Sea Life: ‘An Oh My God Moment’”
“The ocean has long acted as a quiet safeguard against climate change, absorbing vast amounts of the carbon dioxide and trapped heat as people burned fossil fuels and razed forests. But that service has come at a cost. Last year, the ocean reached its highest temperature and lowest oxygen content since humans started keeping track. Changes to the ocean’s chemistry are already threatening fish. Coral reefs are in steep decline.”
“‘How screwed are we?’ I get that all the time,” Dr. Deutsch said. “If we don’t do anything, we’re screwed.”
guess this is just a follow up on: “The Planet Has Seen Sudden Warming Before. It Wiped Out Almost Everything.”
and not to add insult to injury:
“Massive wildfires helped fuel global forest losses in 2021”
“Unprecedented wildfires raged across Russia in 2021, burning vast swaths of forest, sending smoke as far as the North Pole and unleashing astounding amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”
“Logging operations continued. Insect infestations wreaked havoc. The relentless expansion of agriculture, meanwhile, fueled the disappearance of critical tropical forests in Brazil and elsewhere at a rate of 10 soccer fields a minute.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2022/world-forest-loss-wildfires”
for the current generations instead of Brother can you spare a dime? the lyrics should go: “Brother can you spare a thought ?” Its not like the bleak, nightmarish news is being totally hidden from you, reading these headlines do you say “oh well that’s the way the cookie crumbles” and go on chowing down your delicious big mac the hop back in your Chevrolet C4500 Kodiak Pickup, the news line barely registering like a fleeting thought.
Its the young who will suffer the most from this extinction merry-go-round (now you fry now I fry) who are too burdened paying off their student debt or stewing holed up in their parents basements, too indigent to flee the coop, or they are the silver spoon rich brats too pampered and hopelessly stupid to even understand the horrors that await them, or the one-track-mind techno-freaks thinking their heroic efforts birthing super powerful quantum computers or other paraphernalia will make it all better…look ma, I got umpteen qubits…
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just hit me regarding all these headlines about a planet gradually heating up as each year goes by, the most appropriate apologue for humans right now is the frog in a slowly boiling pot fable:
if you place them into room temperature water and slowly heat it to boiling, the frog won’t notice and will slowly cook to death.
well, to be honest, its a pretty big pot holding roughly 7 billion and mighty damn few are throwing any kind of ruckus but are obliviously hopping around in that mega cauldron coming to a slow boil…
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If I’m one of the last ones to go extinct,I’ll make sure the deceased Clever Apes get a trophy before I cease to exist. A trophy may not be enough reward for all the stupidity of overpopulation creating a species’ self extinction.
Scotty is not going to beam us up.
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For some reason, I don’ think there will be 9 billion people on this planet…I believe that global human population will crash before 9 billion people is reached
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Hard to believe, I could not have imagined the Biden admin could be any worse than Trump but sadly I was about as wrong as one can be, there is not a shred of doubt if Trump had been reelected the Ukraine war would not have happened, Biden has granted more leases to oil/gas drilling on public lands than the Trump administration and has now used the Ukraine war as a sorry excuse to reverse any progress on limiting fossil fuels and if fact basically reversed course (of course that progress was mostly glib fluff anyway). Instead of negotiating an end to the Ukraine war in good faith he has upped the anti and is recklessly pushing us ever closer to nuclear war with intransigent bellicosity. He is fulfilling the MIC’s wildest wet dreams by funnelling huge amounts of weaponry to Ukraine courtesy of US tax payers (eg mostly the middle class) and rapidly driving the economy into a severe recession and perhaps depression/collapse, stoking and abetting a conflict that is backfiring on us from A thru Z, has fouled up the handling of inflation horrifically,….etc. Never had high hopes for the Biden admin now filled with imbecilic war mongers and deluded neocons having free rein under a president with advancing senility and all too obvious dementia, who has a long track record of being a neocon capitalist water boy. Sadly its now hard to imagine that things could be any worse under Trump right now despite the fact that I was no big fan to put it midlly….
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“, there is not a shred of doubt if Trump had been reelected the Ukraine war would not have happened”
—-seriously????
On the contrary, Trump emboldened Putin.
https://news.yahoo.com/fiona-hill-says-trump-emboldened-154737679.html
Russia is a mafia state that cannot be negotiated with. Putin uses his nukes as a threat to blackmail and extort. There is no negotiating with him.
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On the other hand the media says very little about Ukraine being one of the most corrupt regimes in Europe as Hunter can attest to and that we are now arming and working with multiple neo nazis and extremist battalions (Azov) in the proud tradition of Ukrainians that collaborated with the nazis to exterminate jews and basically did much of their dirty work for them (the Babi Yar massacres) this would pretty much be the equivalent of the US supplying arms and weaponry to the proud boys, oath keepers, bugaloos…
Ukrainian nationalists held a torchlight march in the capital of Kyiv to mark the birthday of Stepan Bandera, the leader of a rebel militia that fought alongside Nazi soldiers in World War II. During World War II, Bandera led the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, whose men killed thousands of Jews and Poles, including women and children, while fighting alongside Nazi Germany against the Red Army and communists. Expressions of admiration for Bandera and other collaborators have increased in scope and status. When German troops took control of Kyiv in 1941, they were welcomed by “Heil Hitler” banners. Soon after, nearly 34,000 Jews — along with Roma and other “undesirables” — were rounded up and marched to fields outside the city on the pretext of resettlement only to be massacred in what became known as the “Holocaust by bullets.”
The Babyn Yar ravine continued to fill up as a mass grave for two years. With as many as 100,000 murdered there, it became one of the largest single killing sites of the Holocaust outside of Auschwitz and other death camps.
Unfortunately, the law was intended to address a pronounced uptick in public displays of bigotry, including swastika-laden vandalism of synagogues and Jewish memorials, and eerie marches in Kyiv and other cities that celebrated the Waffen SS.
In another ominous development, Ukraine has in recent years erected a glut of statues honoring Ukrainian nationalists whose legacies are tainted by their indisputable record as Nazi proxies. The Forward newspaper cataloged some of these deplorables, including Stepan Bandera, leader of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), whose followers acted as local militia members for the SS and German army. “Ukraine has several dozen monuments and scores of street names glorifying this Nazi collaborator,…Another frequent honoree is Roman Shukhevych, revered as a Ukrainian freedom fighter but also the leader of a feared Nazi auxiliary police unit that the Forward notes was “responsible for butchering thousands of Jews and … Poles.” Statues have also been raised for Yaroslav Stetsko, a one-time chair of the OUN, who wrote “I insist on the extermination of the Jews in Ukraine.”
One is the Azov Battalion, founded by an avowed white supremacist who claimed Ukraine’s national purpose was to rid the country of Jews and other inferior races. In 2018, the U.S. Congress stipulated that its aid to Ukraine couldn’t be used “to provide arms, training or other assistance to the Azov Battalion.” Even so, Azov is now an official member of the Ukraine National Guard.
the later is from nbc news which I usually dont bother to read being corporate news media propaganda
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note my comment on extreme right wing fascist neo-nazi battalions now incorporated into the Ukrainian army (and hence armed and funded by the US) does not in any way justify or condone Putins illegal invasion into Ukrainian territory in violation of international law or the massive destruction inflicted by them and the deaths of innocents, but the media’s deafening silence on this as well as the fact that these same neo-nazi battalions are forcing innocent Ukrainian civilians to act as human shields and committing atrocities against russian speaking Ukrainians is inexcusable, the world is not black and white, only in the minds of propaganda purveyors.
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Where is your proof? Also, reality is the opposite of what you are saying. It is, in fact, the Russian military and government which are acting like the true nazis with their mass killing, rape, torture, and terrorizing of Ukranian civilians. This is all being documented in real time by International and Ukrainian observers for future prosecution of war crimes and crimes against humanity. I am real close to banning you. If you are not a Russian sympathizer, you sure are acting like one.
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go ahead and ban me, your stupidity is shocking
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Provide proof or I will ban you. Your failure to provide any proof is admission that you are wrong.
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It appears Henri, Doofenshmirtz, and “Goodbye” all share the same IP address. Are they are the same person? Probably. Still waiting for your proof on Ukrainian nazis.
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Would it be to offensive to address these three as Curly,Larry & Moe? 😉
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https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/neo-nazis-azov-battalion-is-ukraines-controversial-custodian/articleshow/90692826.cms?from=mdr
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-azov-battalion-mariupol-neo-nazis-b2043022.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-704680
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/the-azov-battalion-the-neo-nazis-of-ukraine/article65239935.ece
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2022/04/ukraine-russia-putin-azov-neo-nazis-western-media
https://www.rferl.org/a/azov-ukraine-s-most-prominent-ultranationalist-group-sets-its-sights-on-u-s-europe/29600564.html
https://www.salon.com/2022/03/10/are-there-really-neo-nazis-fighting-for-ukraine-well-yes–but-its-a-long-story/
interesting logic should I fail to provide “proof” that relativity is a correct theory is it therefore wrong ?
anyway sayonara I wont be commenting or ever going on this site again, I am tired of being confronted by knee-jerk heated emotional reactions, the Azov battalion is an abomination in my mind period despite all current attempts to whitewash it for political convenience.
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And from your own provided links:
“To be clear, the Kremlin’s claims that Ukraine is a hornets’ nest of fascists are false: far-right parties performed poorly in Ukraine’s last parliamentary elections, and Ukrainians reacted with alarm to the National Militia’s demonstration in Kiev.”
A small minority being exploited by Putin:
So it’s no different than the white nationalists that exist in America’s own armed forces.
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So you are wrong, easily proven with a little research. Also, the accusations of far-right Ukrainian battalions using innocent civilians as human shields is another disinformation story being spread by Russia. So yes, you are wrong.
https://www.stopfake.org/en/fake-ukrainian-military-not-allowing-mariupol-residents-to-leave-the-city/
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/4/3/why-we-need-to-challenge-russias-human-shields-narrative
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I’m just waiting for the 8,000,000,000 baboon brains to realize that their politics,religion & economics should might not have been their top priority when they destroy their habitat.
I’m entering the matrix & going to kick spell checks ass. I’m sick of being corrected on my spelling of 3 letter words.It’s not typographical errors,it’s poetic lycense. 😉
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To be honest, the Russian-Ukraine war might lead to the Third World War…perfect timing as world oil extraction has now entered permanent decline, and now economic contraction/collapse is inevitable, so we need WW3 to accelerate the on-going collapse of industrial civilization…leading eventually to near term human extinction.
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Can’t believe I had missed this.
“If your religion makes you hate someone, you need a new religion.”
Why would one look for another religion when they are all delooosional?
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I’m changing my handle to Unfiltered Instigator.
Roe vs Wade is political? Will 81,000,000 Democratic voters call for a boycott of all Republican businesses. Rep/Con businesses will wonder,”Why has our revenue fallen so much.” One might find out what Rep/Cons truly believe in, political delusions or money. Best argument for abortion: Look into a mirror.
How about a social boycott of Republican friends & family? I’m already doing this to those that I know. None of them will see $0.10 of my $4.00 estate.
In full transparency,I will not vote for Democrats & try to avoid their true believers. One would be a fool to vote for any politicians that do not represent them. It’s sad that our Constitution also defends the FREEDOM! of voter stupidity. How could anyone doubt collapse when stupidity & gullibility is a global pandemic.
“Keep on smiling thru the rain,laughing at the pain” 😉
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There’s only one rule anyone should follow: Be careful of those you or others piss off. Collateral damage might not always be one’s favorite experience? There is no right or wrong when the pissed off get pissed off.
“What goes around, comes around.”
https://www.djournal.com/news/national/watch-now-madison-anti-abortion-headquarters-hit-by-apparent-molotov-cocktail-vandalism-graffiti/article_aa5c9573-4089-568b-8e27-da157d0bc0be.html
Financial boycotts of private businesses that support one’s opposition is more powerful than any vote. Get into one’s wallet & it will get their attention. No protest,no sign toting,no pepper spray, no arrest,no violence,no carbon production from travel just to be seen in the crowds(ego-look at me,look at me). One can sit at home & watch opposition businesses go bankrupt/shutting their doors.They made their political decision,now others can make their financial decisions of where they choose to spend their money. Of course 81,000,000 Democrats will never figure that out.
Forget politics & the economy! Nothing will stop the collapse of habitat & the extinction of the Clever Ape?
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According to Guy McPherson, humanity is already doomed…I am not sure whether humans will be extinct by the year 2030, but the eventual extinction of mankind is already guranteed at this point due to a plethora of reasons. Like human population overshoot (the degree of overpopulation and overconsumption is already too severe for the planet to support for any longer), the depletion of nonrenewable resources (like fossil fuels and mineral ores…i.e copper, aluminium, and gold), environmental degradation (species loss and habitat destruction i.e deforestation, poaching and road building causing species to go extinct), pollution (like the massive amounts of plastics being dumped into the oceans. And hence microplastics are now ubiquitious everywhere on this planet. Including microplastics in the food and water we drink), soil erosion (top soil is being lost at a rate of 75 billion tons every year from human agriculture, and this will cause food production to plummet), fresh water scarcity (more and more people will die from thirst, due to lack of drinking water. Also, the lack of fresh water supplies will cause agriculture and industry to fail…hence accelerating the collapse of industrial civilization), abrupt climate change/global warming (catastrophic, human-induced climate change will soon render agriculture impossible thus causing catastrophic, global famine), resources wars (countries and groups of people will violently fight for what little resources are left on this planet) and global pandemics (contagious diseases will spread due to the extremely high density of global human population).
Those above factors (and many other factors) will ultimately lead to the collapse of industrial civilization and near term human extinction. Do you agree with my statements?
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I agree.
Nothing seems to get one’s attention today thanks to denial not being illegal. The only thing that gets many peoples attention is the money god. I’ve got several friends in retail & when I ask about customers inflation complaints they are hearing more disgust about prices. One of those friends said he wasn’t happy about increase in prices either. Several weeks ago he said products that had been on the selves for some time were getting regular price increases without justification other than price gouging.
Anthropogenic climate change,pollution of the earth,air & water are slow compared to inflation & aren’t in one’s wallet as quickly. When something had cost a $100.00, now cost $108.30,might just get some individuals attention,while they don’t see that NTHE is surrounding them. The money god is also the god of denial?
‘ [Clever Apes] can’t always get what they want but sometimes they get what they [deserve].’
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/11/cpi-april-2022.html
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And wages aren’t growing nearly fast enough to keep up with the increasing cost of everything. And the rate of global warming is accelerating…every passing summer is hotter than the previous summer. Eh, once it becomes obvious that there isn’t enough food for everyone, social strife will exacerbate the food shortages…until the supermarkets and supply chains permanently run out of stuff. And then, things will get very “interesting”.
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Posted for one’s reading enjoyment.
https://climateandeconomy.com/2022/05/09/9th-may-2022-todays-round-up-of-climate-news/
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Most of us here know that “renewable” energies i.e. solar panels and wind turbines have zero chance of ever replacing fossil fuels. Yet the mainstream media continues to sell to the masses the hopium that “renewable” energies will “save” industrial civilization and the planet from climate change. Every intelligent person reading this site knows that is a big fat lie…there is zero chance renewables will ever replace fossil fuels. And global fossil fuel extraction is already in permanent decline (because global peak oil extraction was reached in 2019)…hence the record high gasoline and diseal prices around the world. The following video indicates that global peak oil extraction was indeed reached in 2019
Logically speaking, now that we are in 2022, global oil extraction has already entered permanent decline, hence the record high prices for gasoline and diseal…and the prices for fuel will continue to increase as global oil extraction continues to decline…because most of the oil reserves on this planet have already been depleted by now. The overwhelming majority of petroleum on this planet has already been depleted and used up… I reckon about 85% of all of the oil that could ever be extracted has already been extracted. The record high price of fuel at the gas stations indicates that the demand for oil is starting to outstrip the rates of extraction of oil. And price of fuel at gas stations will continue to increase until the lack of fossil fuels (and permanent shortages other raw materials like aluminium, copper and gold caused by the Peak Everything crisis) will cause industrial civilization to collapse…resulting in the permanent cessation of the global supply chains and electric grids…and then a mass die off/near term extinction of humanity.
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Like many doomers have already pointed out, there is no solution with 8,000,000,000 “clever apes” on this planet. Just look at any city on this planet. Especially big cities with over 1,000,000 people like Toronto, Tokyo, New York and Shanghai. It is literally impossible to support so many people without fossil fuels.
Without 24/7 supply chains operating across the planet, there is no way industrial civilization can last for even 1 year. And those supply chains are all powered by fossil fuels. There are no “locally produced” goods anymore in the 21st century. Every mass-produced product (like smartphones, cars, books and even something as “simple” as a wooden pencil) requires importing raw materials from across the globe via fossil-fuel powered supply chains. Just because something is said to be manufactured in one specific country (i.e. made in China) doesn’t mean all its raw materials and components originated from that country. For example, a book said to be manufactured in China simply means that the finished product was assembled in China. The raw materials and individual components for manufacturing the book certainly came from all across the globe…for example, wood imported from Canada, petrochemical feedstocks imported from the Middle East and other raw materials imported from all across the world.
And keep in mind, that without fossil fuels, global human population won’t simply decline to 500,000,000 people or some arbritary number thought be “sustainable” without fossil fuels. It isn’t just a peak oil crisis. It is literally a “peak everything crisis”. All of the world’s nonrenewable and “renewable” resources are being depleted beyond the point of no return by overpopulation and overconsumption. Some people say that switching to burning wood and biomass will “substitute” for fossil fuel depletion because wood/biomass is a “renewable” resource. But what they don’t realize is that wood is not a truly “renewable” resource. Chopping down and replanting trees in a second growth forest/tree farm only works for a limited amount of time…until the soils become so depleted of nutrients that no more trees can grow in the tree “farm”. Besides, if wood was truly a “renewable” and unlimited resource, there wouldn’t have been a switch from wood burning to fossil fuel burning during the industrial revolution. Obviously, there was (and still is not) no where nearly enough wood and biomass to support global energy demand. The reason for the switch to biomass to fossil fuels was because no amount of replanting of trees and “sustainable” tree harvesting could satisify the growing demand for energy and raw materials…therefore fossil fuels were the only convenient substitute for wood/biomass.
So in short, when industrial civilization does collapse in the near future, humanity is truly screwed…I don’t see how any humans could survive in a post-industrial age with a planet depleted of its resources and no biodiversity left.
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Here is a following quote from Michael Ruppert emphasizing the importance of fossil fuels for industrial civilization: “oil (petroleum) is the foundation of and is present throughout the edifice of human civilization. There is ten calories of fossil fuel fuel energy used to produce every calorie of food, you and I, eat in the industrialized world. Crops are planted , grown, harvested and transported across the world with fossil fuel powered machines. Fertilizers are made from natural gas (a fossil fuel). Pesticides are made of oil. Food ingredients are converted into processed foods, like chocolate bars and cookies, in factories powered by fossil fuels . And the finished food product is wrapped in plastic, which is oil. Plastics are made of oil. All paints, resins, adhesives and countless other products are made out of petrochemical feedstocks, derived from oil and gas. The average tire for a car is made out of 7 gallons of oil. Your toothpaste is a user of oil. Your toothbrush is made of oil. Oil is ubiquitious. Oil is everywhere. And it is only because of oil that there is 7 billion people (in 2010) on this planet. Oil made that happen. And if you take away the oil, you take away the food. And without fossil fuel-powered, industrial agriculture, the global human population bubble collapses. It is that simple.””
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What I noticed is that the overwhelming majority of industrial civilization’s citizens are really stupid and brainwashed. They actually believe in the bs lies of the big corporations and mainstream media. These people are so brainwashed that they don’t even realize they are brainwashed. They actually think that industrial civilization is “sustainable” (which it isn’t), and they actually believe in the greenwashing and PR of big corporations. I guess they will be really surprised when they happen to be around when SHTF does happen…they can’t see that industrial civilization’s collapse is right around the corner.
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I’ve been contemplating the worse case scenarios from the monkey minds’ realization that the old normal is gone & everyday a new nasty normal is in effect. Can any of the disaster movies do our future justice?
In the future,before NTHE is complete,some will look back & wonder if overpopulation was the “Black Swan” that they failed to see?
Nothing like positive & upbeat comments to make one’s day! 😉
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Except the “old normal” was never that good to begin with. It was just that decades and centuries ago, there was far fewer people on this planet, and therefore there was far more opportunity for the “clever ape” to expand his population by plundering this planet. Now, literally every country in this world has a gross excess of human population, and there isn’t enough resources on this planet to sustain even a tiny fraction of the current global population after industrial civilization collapses. The collapse of global human population is inevitable and imminent…just look at the graph of global human population…the global human population has grown super exponentially since the 1700s. There was “only” 4 billion humans on this planet in 1975…now less than 50 years later, there are 8 billion people on this planet. The global human population is growing by 200,000 people everyday, 90 million people every year, one billion extra people every 12 years. This can’t go on forever. In fact, a sudden and catastrophic collapse of industrial civilization, and a mass die off of human population is guranteed within this decade or next decade at the latest. I seriously doubt industrial civilization will still be around by the 2040s and beyond. In fact, it is questionable whether there will be a single human left alive on this planet by the 2040s and beyond. It is likely, by the year 2050, there is not a single human left alive on this planet.
What evidence do I base these predictions on? Hard scientific evidence of human demographics, geology, biology, ecology and evidence I gathered from many disciplines.
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Here is an interesting article showing the leading corporations benefiting from the destruction of the Amazon rainforest (spoiler alert: it is directly related to cattle ranches and soy bean farming):
https://stories.mightyearth.org/amazonfires/index.html
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I need a list of all Americans that had/have stock in these or similar corporations,including anyone that has money in any pension/retirement plans that invest in the same. How many of one’s neighbor, friends & family are invested in these planet destroying,money grubbers while they are simply killing themselves & those they love? I’ve always been able to recognize my enemy.
How’s that unregulated Free Market Capitalism going to work out for all the baboon brains? Think I’ll sit on a high limb in a tree & cut it of, flush the trunk. 😉
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This article is also worth reading…illustrating the 12 major companies behind large scale deforestation
https://earth.org/major-companies-responsible-for-deforestation/
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The level of stupidity on the Internet is absolutely mind-boogling. I just heard more idiots on Reddit and other sites uttering the nonsense of how China is a “communist” country. Most people in the West falsely believe that China is actually a “communist” country, and most people think that the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were “socialist” countries. The truth is none of those countries are/were socialist or communist. Modern China, Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany were/are state capitalist countries. The state and governments of those countries controlled privately-owned corporations…these corporations were run with the profit motive as the main driving force for production. Hence, they are capitalists in nature, but incorrectly labeled as “socialists” or “communists” by the misinformed masses and mainstream media.
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You left out some nuances of China’s system: https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/why-china-continues-to-call-itself-a-communist-state-52947
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The decline and decay of industrial civilization is already very obvious. And it is also painfully obvious there is no freaking chance we will invent new technologies to extend the life expectancy of industrial civilization. Industrial civilization is already very close to the point of sudden and catastrophic collapse. Everyday the passes is literally one day closer to the day when collapse happens. The collapse is pretty much guranteed within this decade, and next decade at the latest. And I don’t need to point out what the collapse of industrial civilization will look like…here is a hint…permanent blackout of the electricity grid, no food at the supermarkets, no gas at the gas stations, no water coming out of the municipal taps, the supply chains permanently fail, and subsequently billions of people will quickly perish.
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