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Although I agree with much of what J. H. Kunstler has to say, particularly on his analysis of energy and his critiques of American suburbia, when it comes to his views on the human-made system that is driving this entire train wreck, he gets it dead wrong. Here is a quote from his last blog post:
Now I am, going to reveal to you why it is so difficult to get a live human being on the telephone at these important places: because the more of a racketeering matrix medicine becomes, the more it seeks to evade responsibility for the consequences. That is, the more medicine becomes a criminal enterprise, the less it wants to hear from its client/victims. The same ethos is at work in just about every other realm of corporate enterprise in the USA. Our problem in the USA is not “capitalism,” it’s racketeering. Why we fail to comprehend it is one of the abiding mysteries of contemporary life.
…It ought to be self-evident that this could only happen in a profoundly corrupt, dishonest, and degenerate society, because it took the form of a social compact that accepted this sort of behavior as okay…
Kunstler is perpetuating a deep-seated myth about capitalism that many in American society repeat. Laying the blame on those victimized by an economic system, which by design exploits, disenfranchises, and discards its subjects, overlooks the fact that the problem is the system itself. Capitalism is not an ethical system, and its overriding force of motivation is always the bottom line. Inequality, conflict, and regulatory corruption are all part and parcel of capitalism. History has borne this out numerous times. Unless someone steps in to break them up, monopolies are the natural result of unbridled capitalism (Mindful Economics, Joel Magnuson):
Corporate money greases the wheels of the political system which then passes regulations discouraging competition and favoring large corporations. Regulatory capture is inevitably what happens when successful capitalists amass wealth and buy off the political class whose lifeblood is, after all, money. Under the present system, we will never see a candidate elected to office without a substantial war chest of funds stuffed with corporate ‘donations‘. Government does the bidding of capitalists, not vise versa. We saw this in spades with the election of Obama when all his campaign promises of “hope and change” evaporated into thin air as he filled his cabinet with Wall Street and Goldman Sachs cronies. Who wrote the legislation for Obama’s healthcare reform? — lobbyists for the healthcare industrial complex where, not surprisingly, “the big bucks are currently earned not through the delivery of care, but from overseeing the business of medicine.” The corruption that Kunstler decries is not an aberration of capitalism, but a natural feature of it:
…What chiefly drives this sort of political corruption today is capitalism’s structure. For many capitalist enterprises, competitive and other pressures exist to increase profits, growth rates, and/or market share. Their boards and top managers seek to find cheaper produced inputs and cheaper labor power, to extract more output from their workers, to sell their outputs at the highest possible prices and to find more profitable technologies. The structure provides them with every incentive of financial gain and/or career security and advancement to behave in those ways. Thus, boards and top managers seek the maximum obtainable assistance of government officials in all these areas and also try to pay the least possible portion of their net revenues as taxes. Boards of directors tap their corporations’ profits to corrupt mostly the top echelons of the government bureaucracy, those needed to make advantageous official decisions.
Individual capitalists act to corrupt government officials to serve their enterprise’s needs. Grouped into associations, they do likewise for their industries. When organized as a whole (in “chambers of commerce” or “manufacturers alliances,” etc.), they corrupt to secure their class interests. When such corruption is not secret, capitalists articulate their demands to corrupted officials as “good for the economy or society as a whole.” Such phrases constitute the “appropriate language” that enables officials publicly to disguise and hopefully to legitimate their corrupt acts.
Strict moral codes, regulations and laws have been imposed to prevent individual or grouped capitalists from corrupting government officials. Evidence suggests, however, that neither civic-minded ethics, nor regulations nor laws have come close to ending capitalists’ corruption. Countless government courts, commissions, etc., have hardly ended official complicities in that corruption. Mainstream economics mostly proceeds in its analyses and policy prescriptions as if rampant corruption did not exist. Mass media tend to treat capitalist corruption (at least in their home countries) as exceptional and government efforts to stop it as serious. These, too, are further examples of that “appropriate language” with which modern capitalist societies mask systemic corruption.
~ Richard D Wolff
Noam Chomsky uses the acronym RECD (Really Existing Capitalist Democracy, pronounced ‘wrecked‘) to describe the capitalism that exists in the real world, and he doesn’t hold out much hope for civilization surviving it. Any sort of idyllic form of capitalism only exists in people’s heads and is kept alive by the myth of laissez-faire capitalism (Mindful Economics, Joel Magnuson):
A democracy cannot exist without an informed and intelligent electorate, and when corporations and monied interests intentionally spin the news, the populous are reduced to conspiracy mongers and what Gore Vidal scoffingly called ‘consumer-depositors’ in thrall to the financial elite. Alas, the institution intended to educate the public, aka the Fourth Estate, on matters of vital importance has been thoroughly dismantled and perverted by capitalism. The internet, the last bastion of independent and alternative news, is soon to follow suite (Mindful Economics, Joel Magnuson):
If the masses are unable to see through the spin and distortion propagated by a class of greedy parasites, there is one entity that will not suffer the fate of the dispossessed, dying quietly in some dark corner. The Earth is not so forgiving to such continued capitalist assaults, and it’s not fooled by propaganda such as ‘sustainable development’, ‘green growth’, or ‘corporate social responsibility’. Since pre-industrial times, the global temperature has ‘only’ risen 0.85 degrees Celsius (1.5 degrees Fahrenheit), and we can already see the havoc to civilization’s infrastructure that climate chaos is wreaking. With forecasts of average global temperature to be many fold greater by mid century, it would seem that only a miracle will save us.
Systemic Disorder published an important essay yesterday on the systematic destruction of labor rights throughout the world. How long will these myths about capitalism persist until the exploited finally wake up and realize their blood, sweat, and sacrifice are what fills the coffers of the über rich? Many at the bottom of the economic hierarchy bend over backwards to apologize for our current system, calling it everything but capitalism. No matter how often capitalism fails, no matter how many people it kills, it is religiously touted as the only and the best economic system available despite its flaws. Will humans continue to amuse themselves to death, defending a systemically self-destructive system?
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We watched the tragedy unfold
We did as we were told
We bought and sold
It was the greatest show on earth
But then it was over
We ohhed and aahed
We drove our racing cars
We ate our last few jars of caviar
And somewhere out there in the stars
A keen-eyed look-out
Spied a flickering light
Our last hurrah
And when they found our shadows
Grouped ’round the TV sets
They ran down every lead
They repeated every test
They checked out all the data on their lists
And then the alien anthropologists
Admitted they were still perplexed
But on eliminating every other reason
For our sad demise
They logged the only explanation left
This species has amused itself to death . . .
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It seems to me that what JHK is saying is that capitalism requires growth, and you cannot have infinite growth in a finite system.
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David,
The book I quote from, Mindful Economics, has a section specifically devoted to the growth imperative of capitalism, but that’s not what JHK is saying. He’s doing what a lot of people do, blaming our current state of affairs on some bad strain of capitalism caused by the immorality of people. I’ve seen this argument stated innumerable times, so JHK is not alone. There really was no ‘Golden Age’ of capitalism. It’s always been characterized by imperialism, the exploitation and killing of people, and the destruction of the land —nearly all of which is sanitized from the pages of history books.
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Mike, would you equate capitalism with any of the agricultural societies that are also responsible for the (slower, maybe) destruction of the land ? I very recently have come to see capitalism as only the latest – accelerating exponentially – trend of the 10.000 year crisis we call civilization (these are the views of Paul Shepard). IOW, what scope do you assign to “capitalism” ?
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I have not read any of Shepard’s books, but I will now, particularly ‘Nature and Madness’. Judging from just one quote by him, I think my philosophy is likely closely aligned with his in many respects:
It is not technology or materialism that is the problem. The love of materials and the physical world and the extraordinary craftsmanship in its use have made us human. By catastrophes of industrial greed I refer to the corporate organization of the economy, with its destruction of the human community, its blindness to place, its obscene disregard for scale, its garbage, its rapacity, and its excessive desire for ‘products.’” –from The Only World We’ve Got
Are you aware that the origins of agriculture, according to recent research, predate 10,000 B.C.?
Agriculture was a natural part of mankind’s evolution into more complex societies, but I don’t think that capitalism is a necessary part of that evolution. I don’t equate the development of agriculture with capitalism. After all, there are other sustainable methods of producing food such as permaculture and no-till farming that could be implemented.
Fossil fuels were the accelerant added to capitalism that really caused the explosion of problems we face today. Without that mixture, we would not have had the ingredients to push ourselves into overshoot on a global scale. So I say that the first step to fixing or ameliorating that problem is to change the economic system, then other problems have a chance of being addressed.
You could say that utilizing fossil fuels was also a natural part of our evolution, but decads ago we had the information that the continued burning of the stuff would be very dangerous, yet we kept on doing it. I think corporate power and obfuscation of the CO2 problem by the fossil fuel industry prevented us from taking a different path.
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Then you have this mystery:
…The general consensus is that the very earliest human civilizations were made up of hunter-gatherers. Once mankind figured out how to domesticate animals and farm for food, it allowed him to settle down and concentrate on other pursuits like art, literature, and more traditionally modern ideas. But that’s not what the evidence here suggests.
Archaeologists have found thousands of animal bones, many of which were from wild animals. This is in line with the theory that the temple’s builders would have been hunter-gatherers. But they’ve also found a prehistoric village about 32 kilometers (20 mi) away from the excavated site. There, they’ve found the world’s oldest domesticated strains of wheat, which have been radiocarbon dated to 10,500 years ago.
That’s generations after the massive undertaking that was responsible for the building of the stone circles.
This finding has led many scholars to believe that the evolution of society actually happened exactly the opposite of how we’ve always thought. The construction of the stone circles of Gobekli Tepe would have taken countless laborers centuries to complete. They would have brought families with them, and they would have needed stationary homes, along with a way to find their own food.
Originally, people would have hunted on the vast, fertile plains around the construction site. But somewhere around 10,800 B.C. there was a miniature ice age that meant animals were dying out and the blossoming civilization needed another way to sustain itself. That meant turning to crops that were already growing in the area and domesticating them…http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/04/08/civilization-didnt-evolve-to-agriculture-the-way-you-think/
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Further information:
5-23-2014
The Science of Inequality
The ancient roots of the 1%
Don’t blame farming. Inequality got its start among resource-rich hunter-gatherers
The transition from egalitarianism to societies rife with economic competition and inequality was “the single most critical watershed in the last 2.5 million years of human history,” says archaeologist Brian Hayden of Simon Fraser University (SFU), Burnaby, in Canada. Over time, it paved the way for the development of “chiefdoms, states, and ultimately industrial empires.””
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/344/6186/822.full
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Yes ! I’ve indeed just read “The Only World We’ve Got” and “Coming Home to the Pleistocene”. Shepard is the most “ridiculously profound” (to quote some reviewer) guy I’ve read in a very long time.
I’ve also just read “The Science of Inequality, The ancient roots of the 1%” article. I think they are missing most Shepard key points, probably by not knowing them.
I don’t have the time to enumerate them, and since you’ve decided to read him (the joy !), you will know soon the extent and depth of his theses. But still … one very important nugget of wisdom he provides (an hypothesis actually), is that our condition, our civilization is marked by ” a kind of failure in some fundamental dimension of human existence, an irrationality beyond mistakenness, a kind of madness”.
I used to basically align with Trotsky’s diagnostic from the “Transitional program”:
” All talk to the effect that historical conditions have not yet “ripened” for socialism is the product of ignorance or conscious deception. The objective prerequisites for the proletarian revolution have not only “ripened”; they have begun to get somewhat rotten. Without a socialist revolution, in the next historical period at that, a catastrophe threatens the whole culture of mankind. The turn is now to the proletariat, i.e., chiefly to its revolutionary vanguard. The historical crisis of mankind is reduced to the crisis of the revolutionary leadership. ” (The Death Agony of Capitalism and the Tasks of the Fourth International),1938.
This rings so true and was quite prescient … However as time passed I came to read his want of a mysterious “revolutionary leadership” as an apory of some sort. Remember the Internationale’s “There are no supreme saviours” ? I suspect now there is now no revolutionary leadership to emerge to save us (it’s a bit of a stretch, but not that much).
Without falling into the traps of essentialism, Shepard proposes a diagnosis of the 10.000 years crisis (and be careful not to take 10.000 not too literally, it’s just a round number) as a symptom of some kind of trap, we, so complex and fragile with our incredibly long ontogeny process, collectively fell into. Maybe we were pushed into this because of the Holocene climate crisis, we probably won’t really know.
You can read it there: http://www.primitivism.com/nature-madness.htm
I’ve recently found another shot at it (a chapter of “The Tender Carnivore”), if you can stand reading a french translation: http://www.liberterre.fr/gaiasophia/relationsinter/shepard-domestication.html
Here are mostly considerations on our fall and demise and sickness. His books however provide a very tender (indeed), lucid and flamboyant assessment of the ecology of Homo genus (incl. Homo Sapiens) and of our infinitely varied cultures of Hunter-Gatherers.
” Among those relict tribal peoples who seem to live at peace with their world, who feel themselves to be guests rather than masters, the ontogeny of the individual has some characteristic features. I conjecture that their ontogeny is healthier than ours (for which I will be seen as sentimental and romantic) and that it may be considered a standard from which we have deviated. Their way of life is the one to which our ontogeny has been fitted by natural selection, fostering cooperation, leadership, a calendar of mental growth, and the study of a mysterious and beautiful world where the clues to the meaning of life were embodied in natural things, where everyday life was inextricable from spiritual significance and encounter, and where the members of the group celebrated individual stages and passages as ritual participation in the first creation. ”
And it goes on, truthfully and beautifully !
Thank you, Paul Shepard, for helping reconcile us with ourselves just at the end of our times.
Maybe he his wrong. This is indeed vastly speculative, and probably, mostly unverifiable. But not more intractable as most of anthropology or paleontology after all. It is *by far* the most balanced and informed reading of our long history I’ve ever read.
Regards,
Aurélien.
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Kunstler moved to to Greenwich, NY last year. Most of the industry there is long gone. The owners moved to greener pastures (cheaper labor, less taxes, better infrastructure, etc) the minute they got the chance. That’s what capitalism is supposed to do. It’s staring him right in the face everyday and he still does not get it. I like Kunstler, but he longs for a Golden Age that, like all Golden Ages, never existed.
http://kunstler.com/my-town/a-winter-tour-of-the-hidden-corners-of-a-little-town-in-upstate-ny/
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This is going to be fun.I’m waiting for Kunstler’s response.
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When I did Economics in the ’60s, laissez faire was regarded as fairy dust: it leads only to sauve qui peut. The number of Parties that still indulge the fantasy is indicative only of how many snake oil salesmen are making a killing at it. Any intellect worthy of the name can see through it in an instant. Warning: to state the obvious upsets the golden dreams of golden people: they do get nasty. Btw Train wreck dead ahead: karma for the deviants, but good news for nobody in particular, unless one would rather be out of the bind. It won’t mean a thing, when it runs out of spin; only cold, hard, wet realty, with a dash of hunger, illness, & danger, to deal with. Leave them to their vanities, take a seat facing the rear [to protect yourself from whiplash]; have a head full of knowledge, to survive the general ignorance. Be kind, but don’t fall for lies,which is what got us here in the first place.
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Well said Mike.
We don’t have laissez faire free speech, religion, press, or anything else the first amendment authorized.
The Supreme Five say that no right is absolute.
Yet they are enamored of laissez faire capitalism?
Belief in that myth seems to be a tenet of exceptionalism, a primary religion.
And it requires more and more denial and self-deception as time goes on.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?mc_eid=f0754ee742&v=s2Na5ijTwOg&mc_cid=c0b70cf268
Top Ranking Stock Analyst Calls for Mass Wealth Redistribution | Interview with Ronnie Moas
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“The history of all hitherto existing society(2) is the history of class struggles.
Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master(3) and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.’
“One of the points made and discussed at length in the brief of counsel for defendants in error was that ‘corporations are persons within the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.’ Before argument, Mr. Chief Justice Waite said: The court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which forbids a State to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, applies to these corporations. We are all of the opinion that it does.”
“The horseman serves the horse,
The neat-herd serves the neat,
The merchant serves the purse,
The eater serves his meat;
‘Tis the day of the chattel,
Web to weave, and corn to grind,
Things are in the saddle,
And ride mankind.
There are two laws discrete
Not reconciled,
Law for man, and law for thing;
The last builds town and fleet,
But it runs wild,
And doth the man unking.”
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Published on May 24, 2014
Mr. Lapavitsas says that capitalists have learned how to make huge profits without producing anything useful…
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Which only makes sense, as there is increasingly less with which TO produce.
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I would be nice if, as you quote extensively from my book, you would cite the book so your readers would know where it is coming from.
Joel Magnuson, author of Mindful Economics
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If you click on the quoted text, it goes to your book, but I’ll edit the post with your name and excellent book.
Mr. Magnuson’s website is here as well:
http://joelcmagnuson.com/
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Chicken Littles of the Right
by Gavin Mueller
If the Right wants to cry about class warfare, we should give them something to cry about.
That these hacks don’t hesitate to take up the sartorial mantle of Jazz Age plutocrats says a lot about the Right’s self-image. But as someone who writes for a magazine who uses the National Razor as part of its branding, I feel moved to respond.
Of course, this cover is just the latest in Piketty-mania: everyone in publishing wants to get a piece of the sensation who can sell a bunch of books without featuring a single mythological creature (outside his definition of capital). Piketty says what everyone who’s been paying attention has known — has felt in their bones — for years: the rich are getting richer. But they’re also getting more brazen, and that’s caused the few remaining well-heeled with consciences to cast nervous glances over their shoulders.
So that trickle of piss running down James Piereson’s leg and pooling in his wingtip is another iteration of billionaire victimology, just another boring maneuver from the Reagan playbook that kids these days are totally over. Yes, after the massive heist of the financial crisis of 2008, exactly one Wall Street executive, Kareem Serageldin, is heading to jail, while thousands of victims head to homeless shelters and soup kitchens. Serageldin’s Christ-like gesture: to do 30 months for the sins of the financial elite.
Not a bad deal — and yet how they complain. They whine about being called “banksters” — the ignominy of such disrespect is enough to make the Chateau Petrús turn bitter in one’s mouth. On the other coast, tech-overlords are so intimidated by the specter of tax-raising masses that they’ll sink millions into childish fantasies of Galt Islands, while openly disdaining democracy.
Meanwhile, their cadre of aspiring thought-Führers are working on new theories of racist Social Darwinism, bolstered by the fashion for Malthusianism among the superrich. If “bourgeois morality” ever existed, it’s dead now: today’s decadent elite are among the most immoral to ever exist.
If today’s capitalists can’t physically secede, at least their money can. Rather than invest cash into new companies and technology, plenty of the rich (when they aren’t simply sitting on it) sink their riches into more stable investments, like luxury watches and handbags. Much safer that way: your Patek Philippe will never go on strike or demand a higher wage.
Sometimes US lefties trip on how happy things could be by pointing to social democracy across the pond, but things aren’t much better there. In Perry Anderson’s assessment, members of the European political class from both ends of the spectrum loot with impunity:
The worst you get if you’re caught with your hand in the biscotti jar is a text message from arch-villain Tony Blair telling you to keep a stiff upper lip and pop a couple Xanax.
When Marx undertook his analysis of capitalism, he sought to describe its internal laws and tendencies independent of any malice, greed, or hatred among individual owners. But the class system on which capitalism depends (unlike Piketty, Marx didn’t argue that capitalism produced inequality, but that it started from it) produces a real loathing, and fear, of the poor on whom it relies.
Ruling over a world while destroying it has made the rich a bunch of clinical assholes. Study after study show that wealthy people care less about others: in other words, affluenza is real.
We could see this mixture of hard-heartedness and chickenshit boot-quivering as the class struggle landing a few blows squarely on the bourgeois psyche. But it makes it that much easier for the feral rich to justify the outrageous violence that is an integral component of maintaining current property relations, weekend class warriors steeling themselves for the counterrevolution.
It’s the same phenomenon that lets cops (and now even just your run-of-the-mill racist citizen) kill unarmed people because they “felt threatened” — though so many of these unarmed dead people possessed “superhuman strength,” it’s no wonder we’re arming cops like they’re contra death squads. After all, violently grabbing a protester’s breast can be so dangerous, it can damage a poor officer’s eyesight — though in which eye, it’s impossible to be sure.
Remember this: no matter how many country clubbers flip through Piketty’s book, at bottom, the rich hate us. They disdain us. They mock us. And they fear us, even though the current balance of forces favors them overwhelmingly and sometimes “common ruin of the contending classes” seems like an optimistic outcome.
Yet I have to fall back on some advice I got as a kid: If the American Spectator wants to cry about class warfare, we should give them something to cry about.
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Video: “The pricing of everything” by George Monbiot
George Monbiot, SPERI Annual Lecture, 05/07/14
In this excellent video, George Manbiot explains how liberals continually forfeit their positions in order to appease the radical right. Nowhere is this more salient then in the approaches to ‘pricing nature’ and their adoption of the concept of ‘natural capital’. “We don’t really care about nature for its own sake, don’t believe in its intrinsic value…wonder, delight, enchantment. We just want to know how it will make money.” Monbiot argues that the mainstream ecological economics that adopts natural capitalism as its central metaphor and organizing principle is morally bankcrupt and one more trojan horse of neoliberalism.
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Warmer waters are wreaking havoc on the ecosystem:
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JHK is not a leftist that’s plain to see, nor has he ever represented himself as such. his latest post, however, has about as good of an action plan as any i have seen posted on the web.
“There’s a long and comprehensive To-Do list that has been waiting for us since at least 2008, when the nation received one forceful blow upside its thick head. We refuse to pay attention. First item on the list: restructure the banks. Other items: reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act; disassemble the ridiculous “security” edifice under the NSA; upgrade the US electric grid; close down most of our military bases overseas (and some of our bases in the USA); draw up a constitutional amendment re-defining the alleged “personhood” of corporations; fix the passenger railroad system to prepare for the end of Happy Motoring; rebuild Main Street commerce to prepare for the death of WalMart and things like it; outlaw GMO foods and promote local food production; shut down casino gambling.”
of course the prescriptions operate upon the assumption that the human race will survive, and are actually quite mild, but that very mildness may make them doable. the most important of all his recommendations, to my mind, is, “draw up a constitutional amendment re-defining the alleged “personhood” of corporations”; this sole issue would do more to change the balance of power around the world than any other.
it is an indicator of the mess we are in that even these mild proposals have about a snowballs chance in hell of ever becoming reality.
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That’s his problem —he’s not a Leftist. He believes capitalism can be made to operate within a collapsing biosphere.
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i enjoy JHK, but he has always struck me as someone who thinks of themselves as an enlightened Republican. “it takes all kinds to make the world, said the old lady who kissed the cow”, as my Grandma used to say.
there are people concerned about ecological damage from all walks of life.
PBs recently had a segment about hydrogen cars saving the planet. it doesn’t seem to occur to the techno-triumphalist that every new tech just allows continuing exponential growth. it doesn’t occur to those that have that it is technology that is the problem, they continue to congratulate themselves on how efficiently heir new I-pad operates, while ignoring the fact that a properly stored book can last 100 years.
but you are correct, i don’t believe social justice is on his radar screen, and he does seem to be preoccupied with the financial system, as if he has something to lose. the plain fact is that most people don’t have a lot lose.
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While fossil fuels certainly were the accelerant for hyper-industrialization, I have been thinking about where civilization was just before the widespread use of coal and oil and gas. Mankind was on the cusp of developing nuclear energy, electricity, diesel fuel from plants, etc. Whale oil was already seen as a great commodity. It wouldn’t take too much for someone to see the potential in many other sources of energy, such as solar and wind, especially once electricity had been found to be a great way to utilize the energy found.
It may have taken a bit longer, but I think humans would still have eventually gotten us into the mess we find ourselves now, even without fossil fuels. Hell, the Europeans and Americans were hell bent on finding and utilizing all the timber they could get their hands on. Without fossil fuels,the Amazon may have already become a thing of the past.
Of course, CO2 levels would not have risen as they have, but climate change is only one problem that is going to do us in.
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Where did I get this Link? I have no idea—too much bopping around.. Maybe it was here at COIC..
You can see how ravaged the American landscape was before fossil fuels…
Where have all the forests gone? – forests2.pdf
Click to access forests2.pdf
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I see heavy machinery in those photos. FF’s began to be used on a large scale roughly 250 years ago.
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Mike, true. The presentation included material from a number of decades, from the late 19th-century through to the 1950s (the mining and quarry period). The deforestation belongs to mainly to the earlier era and had to do with what pfgetty was saying, I figured.
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“the mining and quarry period being later on” … is what I meant to write, not just in the ’50s.
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although I would not say FF were used on a “large scale” 250 years ago, which is the 1760s.
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Britain started with coal in the 1700’s and the rest of the world followed a little later…
By the 1830s, though, large-scale coal extraction had begun in Pennsylvania, Virginia, and beyond. Northern railroads and factories took the lead in replacing wood and water power with coal. By the 1860s, booming northern coal mines—the Union produced 38 times more coal than the Confederacy—and the war industries they fueled helped to give the Union a decisive material advantage.
Railroads and steamships burned vast quantities of coal, but they also hauled it to other consumers.
By the 1890s, the coal industry stretched from the Appalachian Mountains, across the Midwestern prairies, to the Cascades and Rockies, making the U.S. the largest coal producer in the world. More than 750,000 coal miners of every race and more than three dozen nationalities were digging and blasting upwards of 550 million tons of coal a year by the 1910s (a volume sufficient to cover the entire island of Manhattan with more than 21 feet of coal) (see Primary Source Coal Consumption ([1850-1900]).
http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/beyond-the-textbook/23923
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Can’t say with an certainty, but I feel that without fossil fuels, mankind would have desperately looked for any other sources of energy. Every tree everywhere would have been sucked up into the machine, and other plants as well, like hemp. Electricity would have still been discovered as a great way to utilize energy, and many ways of producing it, including wind, hydro, solar, and even nuclear eventually. I would imagine that pesticides and herbicides and other poisons would have been discovered. All of this would have been a slower evolution, but we would still have had a massive destruction of the natural environment.
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i disagree. its most likely we would still be with 18th century technology without fossil fuels, with a population and worldview to match. it was fossil fuels that created the industrial machine and without them its very likely the enlightenment wouldn’t have gone much further than with the greeks and romans achieved.- ie mainly intellectual curiosity for a tiny elite. the human population would have grown by millions as they exploited the new world riches, but it would eventually run into limits that could not be cured by throwing near infinite amounts of energy at them, and people wouldnt even think of doing so, as that sort of ‘problem solving’ expectation was created by fossil fuels..
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Totally agree.
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We’d also have limited the wide-scale poisoning with synthetic compounds that’s going on.
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continued here…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/25/1301955/-World-must-consider-antibiotic-resistant-pathogens-to-be-same-level-of-a-threat-as-climate-change#
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The absolute collapse in retail visitor counts is the warning siren that this country is about to collide with the reality Americans have run out of time, money, jobs, and illusions. The exponential growth model, built upon a never ending flow of consumer credit and an endless supply of cheap fuel, has reached its limit of growth. The titans of Wall Street and their puppets in Washington D.C. have wrung every drop of faux wealth from the dying middle class. There are nothing left but withering carcasses and bleached bones.
Once the Wall Street created fraud collapsed and the waves of delusion subsided, retailers have been revealed to be swimming naked. Their relentless expansion, based on exponential growth, cannibalized itself, new store construction ground to a halt, sales and profits have declined, and the inevitable closing of thousands of stores has begun.
The implications of this long and winding road to ruin are far reaching. Store closings so far have only been a ripple compared to the tsunami coming to right size the industry for a future of declining spending. Over the next five to ten years, tens of thousands of stores will be shuttered. Companies like JC Penney, Sears and Radio Shack will go bankrupt and become historical footnotes. Considering retail employment is lower today than it was in 2002 before the massive retail expansion, the future will see in excess of 1 million retail workers lose their jobs. Bernanke and the Feds have allowed real estate mall owners to roll over non-performing loans and pretend they are generating enough rental income to cover their loan obligations. As more stores go dark, this little game of extend and pretend will come to an end.
Retail store results for the 1st quarter of 2014 have been rolling in over the last week. It seems the hideous government reported retail sales results over the last six months are being confirmed by the dying bricks and mortar mega-chains. In case you missed the corporate mainstream media not reporting the facts and doing their usual positive spin, here are the absolutely dreadful headlines:
Wal-Mart Profit Plunges By $220 Million as US Store Traffic Declines by 1.4%
Target Profit Plunges by $80 Million, 16% Lower Than 2013, as Store Traffic Declines by 2.3%
Sears Loses $358 Million in First Quarter as Comparable Store Sales at Sears Plunge by 7.8% and Sales at Kmart Plunge by 5.1%
JC Penney Thrilled With Loss of Only $358 Million For the Quarter
Kohl’s Operating Income Plunges by 17% as Comparable Sales Decline by 3.4%
Costco Profit Declines by $84 Million as Comp Store Sales Only Increase by 2%
Staples Profit Plunges by 44% as Sales Collapse and Closing Hundreds of Stores
Gap Income Drops 22% as Same Store Sales Fall
American Eagle Profits Tumble 86%, Will Close 150 Stores
Aeropostale Losses $77 Million as Sales Collapse by 12%
Best Buy Sales Decline by $300 Million as Margins Decline and Comparable Store Sales Decline by 1.3%
Macy’s Profit Flat as Comparable Store Sales decline by 1.4%
Dollar General Profit Plummets by 40% as Comp Store Sales Decline by 3.8%
Urban Outfitters Earnings Collapse by 20% as Sales Stagnate
McDonalds Earnings Fall by $66 Million as US Comp Sales Fall by 1.7%
Darden Profit Collapses by 30% as Same Restaurant Sales Plunge by 5.6% and Company Selling Red Lobster
TJX Misses Earnings Expectations as Sales & Earnings Flat
Dick’s Misses Earnings Expectations as Golf Store Sales Plummet
Home Depot Misses Earnings Expectations as Customer Traffic Only Rises by 2.2%
Lowes Misses Earnings Expectations as Customer Traffic was Flat
Of course, those headlines were never reported. I went to each earnings report and gathered the info that should have been reported by the CNBC bimbos and hacks. Anything you heard surely had a Wall Street spin attached, like the standard BETTER THAN EXPECTED. I love that one. At the start of the quarter the Wall Street shysters post earnings expectations. As the quarter progresses, the company whispers the bad news to Wall Street and the earnings expectations are lowered. Then the company beats the lowered earnings expectation by a penny and the Wall Street scum hail it as a great achievement. The muppets must be sacrificed to sustain the Wall Street bonus pool. Wall Street investment bank geniuses rated JC Penney a buy from $85 per share in 2007 all the way down to $5 a share in 2013. No more needs to be said about Wall Street “analysis”.
It seems even the lowered expectation scam hasn’t worked this time. U.S. retailer profits have missed lowered expectations by the most in 13 years. They generally “beat” expectations by 3% when the game is being played properly. They’ve missed expectations in the 1st quarter by 3.2%, the worst miss since the fourth quarter of 2000. If my memory serves me right, I believe the economy entered recession shortly thereafter. The brilliant Ivy League trained Wall Street MBAs, earning high six digit salaries on Wall Street, predicted a 13% increase in retailer profits for the first quarter. A monkey with a magic 8 ball could do a better job than these Wall Street big swinging dicks.
http://www.theburningplatform.com
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Tweet from Greg Palast regarding the BP oil spill…
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“Inclusive Capitalism” tweets the head of the IMF… and the bullshit just goes on and on:
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-the-ukrainian-civil-war-started/5383982
Fortunately, the origin of the Ukrainian civil war is remarkably well-documented in tapped phone-conversations and in cell-phone videos that have been posted online for all the world to see, despite what might have been the intentions of the planners and of the perpetrators. This cannot be a pleasant reality for U.S. President Barack Obama, and for his Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Asia, Victoria Nuland. President Obama might wish his employee, Nuland, to take all the blame for his policy on Ukraine, but he’s not firing her. It’s his policy, not hers. She was hired to do this, and so she is.
“US support of violent neo-Nazis in Ukraine: Video Compilation” is an hour-long documentary, dated 18 March 2014, which covers the background of the U.S. overthrow of the democratically elected pro-Russian President of Ukraine, which took place in December 2013 through February 2014, under the cover of popular anti-corruption “Euro-Maidan” demonstrations against that elected President, who (like all of his post-USSR predecessors) was corrupt. The documentary was produced by stpetes4peace, and it uses mainly film-clips of the actual events in Ukraine, coming from Russian government TV (RT) and from British government TV (BBC).
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CoIC makes it to the weekend round-up of news items at scienceblogs.com…
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Another manifestation of climate change…
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Immortal Technique. Smart rapper.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IXz6nmQ_lxk
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Video from today:
PRINCE CHARLES CALLS FOR END TO CAPITALISM TO SAVE PLANET FROM GLOBAL WARMING
Tuesday in a speech to 200 business leaders at the “Inclusive Capitalism conference” in London, Prince Charles made the case that a fundamental transformation of global capitalism to a more “inclusive capitalism” would be needed to halt “dangerously accelerating climate change.”
“Either we continue along the path we seem collectively determined to follow, apparently at the mercy of those who so vociferously and aggressively deny that our current operating model has any effect upon dangerously accelerating climate change – which I fear will bring us to our own destruction – or we can choose to act now before it is finally too late, using all of the power and influence that each of you can bring to bear to create an inclusive, sustainable and resilient society,” Charles said.
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If they were really serious about creating a truly sustainable and “inclusive” economic system, then they wouldn’t be calling it capitalism at all.
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Published on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 by Monbiot.com
The Impossibility of Growth Demands a New Economic System
Why collapse and salvation are hard to distinguish from each other.
by George Monbiot
Let us imagine that in 3030BC the total possessions of the people of Egypt filled one cubic metre. Let us propose that these possessions grew by 4.5% a year. How big would that stash have been by the Battle of Actium in 30BC? This is the calculation performed by the investment banker Jeremy Grantham(1).
The trajectory of compound growth shows that the scouring of the planet has only just begun. We simply can’t go on this way.
Go on, take a guess. Ten times the size of the pyramids? All the sand in the Sahara? The Atlantic ocean? The volume of the planet? A little more? It’s 2.5 billion billion solar systems(2). It does not take you long, pondering this outcome, to reach the paradoxical position that salvation lies in collapse.
To succeed is to destroy ourselves. To fail is to destroy ourselves. That is the bind we have created. Ignore if you must climate change, biodiversity collapse, the depletion of water, soil, minerals, oil; even if all these issues were miraculously to vanish, the mathematics of compound growth make continuity impossible.
Economic growth is an artefact of the use of fossil fuels. Before large amounts of coal were extracted, every upswing in industrial production would be met with a downswing in agricultural production, as the charcoal or horse power required by industry reduced the land available for growing food. Every prior industrial revolution collapsed, as growth could not be sustained(3). But coal broke this cycle and enabled – for a few hundred years – the phenomenon we now call sustained growth.
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For the rest of the above article go to: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/05/28-0
And don’t miss the comments.
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What’s next? —need to do a follow up on BP oil crime post and then Fukushima deserves an exclusive essay which I have never done.
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Speaking of (More) corporate criminals……
More in US die from prescription narcotics than car crashes, guns, suicide
http://boingboing.net/2014/05/22/more-in-us-die-each-year-from.html
Counties sue narcotics makers, alleging ‘campaign of deception’
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-rx-big-pharma-suit-20140522-story.html#page=1
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