By TDoS
Cross posted from Prayforcalamity.com
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“He said that men believe the blood of the slain to be of no consequence but that the wolf knows better. He said that the wolf is a being of great order and that it knows what men do not: that there is no order in this world save that which death has put there.”
― Cormac McCarthy, The Crossing
In Theodore Kacynski’s manifesto, “Industrial Society and Its Future,” he lays out many premises concerning the existence of man in relation to technology and technological societies. One of these premises is that modern people in technological societies are afraid of death because they have never lived. They have not used their bodies, minds, and souls to their full potential, and thus even in old age, feel like they are yet to begin. Kacynski writes about the primitive man who in his sixties, having seen the successful life of his child and feeling the weariness in his muscles and bones, does not fear, but welcomes his turn to sleep. Where these intuitions were passed on, cultures of indigenous peoples were able to form warrior societies whose success rested on the fact that individual braves had no fear of death. They viewed themselves as one with their people and their land, both of which were timeless, granting them strength of conviction when the situation called for it.
When we hear of people dying in our culture, such news is often quickly followed with statements about the unfairness of one dying so young. Even a fifty-year-old heart attack victim will generally be granted laments and declarations that their passing was too early. While of course the loss of a loved one is saddening, there does appear to be a trend throughout this culture that seems to speak of death as if it is not the ultimate outcome of every life. Death, like the environment, is but another inconvenience to be conquered by our cleverness.
In this culture, there is language of “rights” concerning life. It is said that individuals have a “right” to life, meaning then that death is some violation against the individual. There are even those who would like to extend such rights to animals. No one, according to modern people enculturated by the dominant dogmas, is supposed to die. Ever.
Of course, every living being is only so for a limited time. Death and birth are two phases in the same biological process, and where there is the latter, inevitably we will come to the former. What I find so maddening, is that this culture, so lacking in its ability to confront death, let alone to create and support the psychological and emotional infrastructure to deal with death, is such an efficient bringer of death. How a people so vocally dedicated to peace and the preservation of life can then unflinchingly create nuclear and biological weapons, institute economic castes which immiserate the majority to establish the privilege of the minority, and daily exterminate upwards of two hundred species is possibly the grand irony of our time.
The mind reels.
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When just last month, the study “Planetary Boundaries: Guiding Human Development on a Changing Planet,” was released, it got a lot of traction across the internet. The study, prepared by eighteen scientists from various international universities, grabbed headlines by claiming that human civilization had crossed four of nine environmental boundaries.
Of course such studies digitally shared from hard drive, to hard drive, to hard drive have never served to accomplish much in the way of real world action towards deindustrialization, and likely this one was and will remain no different. The trend seems to be that alarming data confirming that human industrial civilization is driving the global ecology to ruin, likely even to the near term detriment of this very civilization, only ends up spurring on those who believe that human industrial civilization can be done in a less harmful way, perhaps with the addition of more solar panels or the subtraction of capitalist motives.
Those who dare argue that civilization, and industrial civilization in particular, is the root cause of the destructive habits which are bringing all living beings to a point of potential collapse or extinction, are routinely dismissed as extreme. Such critics, before dismissal, are reminded of the dominant culture’s primary directive; “We cannot go backwards.” Suggestions that we must, in order to maintain a survivable habitat, drastically reduce reliance on industrial methods, products, and infrastructure are waved off as impossible, insane, or even genocidal. Defenders of the dominant culture and systems of industrial civilization claim that such reductions in technological application will axiomatically mean reductions in human population, and thus are off the table. These claimants are either oblivious to the fact that “going forward” with the methods and practices of the dominant culture would be at least equally genocidal, if not more so, or they harbor a quasi religious belief that human invention will save us from every single problem caused by previous scores of human invention. Always ignored is the clear fact that so called “going forward” will mean an increase in human population before the ecosystems which support them collapse, meaning there will be more humans to die when drought, famine, sea level rise, resource scarcity, and every other calamity currently rising to crescendo ultimately manifest in a symphony of systemic failures that existing political, technological, and economic structures are incapable of mitigating.
And then there are the non-human genotypes that most defenders of the dominant culture refuse to ever enter into their calculations.
When someone refuses to acknowledge a solution to a problem because it will indirectly involve death – even when the solution in question is attempting to select fewer deaths sooner as opposed to a great many more deaths later – this person is inserting hidden premises into the discussion, the most obvious of which is that people alive now have the right to exhaust the health of the land which people not yet born will need to rely on in the future. If upon the suggestion that we must globally act to deindustrialize in order to prevent overwhelming climate catastrophe, a person floats the counter argument that such deindustrialization will result in a reduction of currently available medical technologies, and is therefore an unacceptable proposition, this person is inserting into the discussion a premise that the lives of those who would no longer have access to the medical technologies they require are more valuable – this is to say, they have more of a right to survival – than the lives that will be lost – human and non – when industrial civilization fails and brings down with it the functioning ecology of the planet.
Such premises, to me, seem insane. A patent refusal to acknowledge the bare reality that all life, including human life, requires as a foundation a healthy and viable habitat is either obstinacy or a shameful level of ignorance. Claiming that one group of humans has more of a right to survival than others, or that humans have more of a right to survival than the rest of the web of life, is doubly insane.
At the end of it all, defenders of the status quo are not defending life, they are defending lifestyle. Proponents of the dominant culture and its myths of progress are really arguing for their own comfort, of both body and mind. Changing nothing presents no difficult ethical questions or messy physical conflicts. Going forward is the easy choice. This fact alone should ring alarm bells.
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Why is death so unacceptable? If we cannot come to grips with death, then we will find ourselves collectively at an impasse where no necessary action will be taken, and industrial civilization will continue unimpeded on its course devouring forests, wiping out species after species, washing away topsoil, and rendering the oceans a lifeless acidic soup of plastics in various stages of photo decay. Somewhere buried in all of this is yet another premise; that to elect the death of even one is unacceptable, but to remain passive while existing systems dole out death to many is forgivable. Human agency seems to be the determining factor. The people who own and operate chemical plants that cause regional cancer clusters in children are forgiven. The death of one million pinpricks is too diffuse to assign blame. On the other hand, to intentionally kill the CEO of such a chemical company would be an outrage. It would be a tragedy. People on TV would say he died too young.
The dominant culture not only protects those high on its hierarchy, blurring lines of responsibility for the actions they take in the name of progress, but it also blinds every day people from the realities of just how it is they come to have the things that they do. Major systems of production and distribution that segregate individuals from the sources of their food, their clothing, the materials that built their homes, the fuels that power their cars and gadgets, create an illusory sense of existence. If a person perceives that food comes from a grocery store, gasoline from a pump, shoes from an online retailer, it is reasonable to believe then that this person’s perceptions have been skewed into believing that nothing must ever die for us to consume whatever we want in whatever quantities we desire. As long as the blood is on someone else’s hands in some other land far from sight, then there is no blood at all. It is this willful blindness to the day to day functioning of industrial civilization on the part of the world’s wealthier populations that allows a people draped in slave made textiles who are kept fed by the mechanistic rape of stolen land powered by stolen oil to stare up with their doe eyes and without a hint of irony ask, “But why do they hate us?”
So it is that so often we hear the claims of “green” capitalists who declare we can have our planet and kill it too. We are to shut our eyes and believe that solar panels, electric cars, fair trade mocha lattes, soy burgers, iPads, internet service, and all of the pills and processes in a modern hospital all just manifest from the ether. The rainforests clear cut, the oceanic dead zones caused by agricultural run off, the open pit mines, the oil spills, the nitro-tri-fluoride and other greenhouse gasses, and all of the whips and prods physical and not that herd about the masses of humans who do all the lifting, stitching, assembling, dismembering, and dying to bring such wonders to our shopping carts just don’t add up to dry shit.
That is how the dominant culture deals with death. It hides it. And when it can’t hide it any longer, it calls it “business.”
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Various indigenous tribes have been able to maintain steady populations. In fact, for millennia, a handful of commonplace practices aided in keeping a tribe or band’s numbers in check. Breastfeeding infants until they were four years old helped prevent mother’s menstrual cycles from resurging, thereby keeping birth numbers down. The use of abortifactant herbs also helped women in the event of untimely pregnancies. When a group’s population was at a point where another child would bring great hardship, some tribal people would turn to infanticide. Picture the heartbreaking scene, as a mother lays a newborn infant on a cold hillside to freeze as the sun sets on a winter day. On the other end, tribes would at times decide not to work to heal ailing elderly members, and instead would begin ceremonial death rites when an older person fell ill.
This is the cultural imperative I am interested in. The ability of a people to confront the hard reality of their lives, and to make the soul wrenching choices that they must make in order to survive is not present in the civilized paradigm, not when it comes to allowing death. This is a delicate topic, to be sure, but one of necessary import as the world now hosts almost eight billion people, while conversely non-renewable resources are consumed at increasing rates, and the ecology is pushed beyond the breaking point.
Cultures that accept the inevitability of death create ceremonies and social forms for processing death. This is not to suggest that these people do not feel the pain of loss when a loved one passes, but rather to highlight that they develop a maturity surrounding death. They can talk about it. They can incorporate it into their survival strategies. They do not treat it as a cosmic betrayal of the individual’s right to exist for seventy-five years before a midnight expiration in a beach condo in Florida. Most importantly, cultures that make room for death do not become locked into a suicidal social paradigm, refusing to veer in their direction because doing so would result in the death of some, even when going forward would result in the death of all.
In my last essay I spoke of needing a new cultural ethos in order to prevent the wanton annihilation of the Earth’s life giving systems. This psychological and spiritual evolution must include maturity in the matters of death. Culturally, we must not shun death from our view, for when we do, we push his presence beyond sight, but not beyond efficiency. Beyond the hedge where death lurks ignored by modern man, he does his work still, and he plots against those who believe they have banished him with their cleverness. He plans a great party indeed.
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My daughter is nearly a year old. She is my connection to the future, as my parents and ancestors are my connection to the past. I love her to my core, each cell in my body resonating with an urge to guard her, protect her, and to see to her survival. I think about the emptiness that would devour me if she were to die, so I do have a sense of the gravity concerning that which I have written. I look at my little girl, and the truth of life comes to me plain as the new day: we cannot banish sorrow. Heartache is the handmaiden of joy. The history of our species is the history of finding the strength to endure when it seems that all is lost, and when we see no reason to go on, feeling that the ground holds us still.
The complex problems we face require sober, adult analysis, but here and now we lack the methods and ceremonies necessary to act as a mature culture. Our unwillingness at all levels to confront uncomfortable realities has made dangerous adolescents of us, as our orgy of consumption and self aggrandizement has pushed the planet to the brink. There are tasks which demand our collective attention, and undertaking them, while necessary, will not be without consequence. There are few good options on the table before us. Meeting such difficult questions head on, with humility and grace, is the mark of greatness.
It is time to ask, “who are we?” and “who do we want to be?” As we stand right now, we are a belligerent cult of ego, drunk on the self, screaming our greatness as we charge forth trampling everything underfoot. We have a lot of work to do, and not nearly enough time to do it. Death rides whether we call for him or not.
This is brilliant. It’s great to read posts from people who don’t have their heads in the sand like the zombie masses. I do believe we are well too far into the end days to educate people enough for anything meaningful to change. I certainly don’t see it in the people I see around me or the mouths on TV. We live in a culture that talks to itself, about itself & for itself.
Brendon.
https://industrialcivilizationacultofdeath.wordpress.com
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Whilst taking pictures of itself.
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and having babies
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Well, part of the process of surviving into the future is some breeding, yes.
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As people have been pulled into functioning in this new technological system, they cease to be humans and have instead become jobs specified by the growth and metabolic needs of the system. Regarding death, it should be no surprise that people identify with the concrete, metal and glass structures that seem to defy decay. Maybe they’re hoping some of it will rub off on them. They can’t accept that death, decay and recycling are necessary to a healthy evolving, resilient system. Humans in the technological systems, upon death, get pumped-up with chemicals and are placed in concrete and metal boxes to await some sort of resurrection. What? Technological humans are insane. At least when contained within the ecosystem their insanity was of little consequence, but give them tools and watch the suicidal chop job commence.
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Neither tribal societes, hunter gatherers nor “modern” societies ever accepted death in its full meaning. That is why all relgions/cultures have some kind of life after death fairytale. That is why tribal societies celebrate dying elders and prepare these rituals. They (and every other religion) celebrate death as some kind of transiton into a better world or at least another world.
When you accept death it means that you accept that your mind will be shut off completely because your biological systems do not function anymore (for loss of homeostasis). Your whole conciousness, perception memories etc. will be gone forever.
When you accept that you and everyone else is going to die like every other animal/living being then you accept that everything you ever did is not worth anything. That is the essential conclusion of nihlism/absurdism.
But that wrests the world of all its beauty for us. So the way modern culture deals with death is in no way different than any religion, cult or what have you. Just the way we react to death is different in its manifestation.
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Exactly! People, in general, have always feared death. Any cursory reading of archaeology will tell you that the rituals are intended to ease the passing to another form of eternal life – not accepting death at all. And there really are no societies that have successfully, deliberately limited their population to a sustainable number. Populations grow until there is some climate disaster, a pandemic, a famine, or communicable disease. The idea that people have purposely limited growth is another myth, as is that human society is ever egalitarian. Only the advent of fossil fuels enabled the (very partial) liberation of women and abolition of slavery and child labor. It will quickly revert when fossil fuel is no longer cheap.
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I left out war, and put disease twice, LOL.
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Plenty of people have not feared death, from the ball players in the Mayan courts who upon victory would be sacrificed so that their blood would replenish the life force of the world, to the samurai warriors of feudal Japan who found it to be a great honor to die in battle.
Culture is the operating system, and unfortunately both the Maya and the Japanese Shogunates were hierarchical civilizations. The former collapse due to ecological ruin, the latter due to the colonization of outsiders from other expanding civilizations.
Read Dee Browns “Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee” for examples of native north Americans not fearing death when it came to defending their homes and ways of life.
It is clear that this culture seeks to conquer death, from plastic surgery to the embalming of corpses, hair plugs to cryogenic services that freeze your body for the future. This culture has its founding notions in materialism, basically proffering that once you die, thats it, so cling to your physical existence as long as possible. The cult of the ego combines with this to create a cultural drive to extend life as long as possible – meanwhile, this culture simultaneously exterminates non human life rapidly, while also maintaining its technological edge through warfare and conquering energy laden regions.
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The only reason people willingly sacrifice themselves (to the extent they aren’t coerced) is because they are convinced that there is life beyond death. That is not accepting death without fear. That is delusion, whatever culture it is in. It is what humans do – deny death.
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Perceiving the self differently plays a role. Not believing yourself to be a singular, lone entity, but rather a component of a network, a family, that crosses space and time will alleviate certain fears of death.
Moving beyond this, the piece in question isnt about fearing death or not, it is about accepting it as a reality, in the physical sense. All living beings die. People who view themselves as part of the greater web of life dont feel as if their body death will mean they will be eliminated from existence. They will be a part of everything, the soil, the air, the other animals. This is where we came from and where we return to. It is living within the circles and cycles of nature.
Civilization has tried to convince us that time is linear, and thus we should all try to make it as far down that line as possible.
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Well, while I have always resented digital clocks because they so unimaginatively measure time in discrete increments rather than a circular continuum like an old-fashioned clock, you are being logically inconsistent. On the one hand you are saying that it’s better to accept death as a physical reality, and then you say it’s not really. It’s just another mumbo-jumbo version of a new age woo-woo replacement for heaven/hell or reincarnation or spirituality or other form of immortality. Dead is dead. If you want to say it’s not, go ahead, you have every right to – but in the interests of accuracy you should stop pretending you are saying one thing when you are actually saying the opposite.
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As a biological entity, you will die. Accepting this is healthy, because it is not an optional outcome. How one goes about accepting it, is up to them. Losing focus on the self, and feeling unity with all things, which in their own turn are born, die, and are born again, seems to be the lesson most easily extrapolated from quiet contemplation of the world around us.
There is no contradiction. This unit of life, my body will die. The greater unit of which i am a part, will continue on.
Is your body not made of hundreds of millions of living cells? Do they not create living tissues? Does your gut not contain living flora?
The notion that we are solitary individuals is flawed. Its a focusing one aspect of our existence, while ignoring what makes us and what greater organisms we in turn, make.
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living in the circles of circles does not sound like an acceptance of death at all. That is exactly the kind of being alive after death every religion or culture has. This part may have some truth to it because all molecules are recycled in a way, and at some point of time they will potentially make up another living being. But it does not change that the mind of the dead person is gone forever…(called death)
Don´t get me wrong. A lot of things in modern societies do seem pretty insane from a lot of viewpoints. But its denial of death is not one of those things. Its manifestation might look bizarre at times. But that is a highly subjective view and depends on biases and value judgements and so on and so forth.
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Well, believing that the person IS the mind, is another cultural problem. Wrapped up in the myth of the self, its hard to move forward.
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Ok you imply that the person is something else or something more than the mind? I´d like to see some scientific evidence for that.
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Then go look for some. I have no time, and truly, no ability to educate you on such things. I cant make you understand things that you are unwilling to understand, and i cannot show you things that your enculturation prevents you from seeing.
Notice, when you say scientific evidence, what you really mean is that you want particular humans to tell you that its ok to believe a thing, and that they will not look down on you for doing so.
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No, when i demand scientific evidence then I want to see some well done and repeatable scientific experiment which is based on a hypothesis. And the outcome of this experiment has to be predicted by mentioned hypothesis and can therefore show that its objectively true. That is the whole point of science.
You are obviously scientifically uneducated and I don´t know much about esoterics or whatever. Therefore we probably won´t come to the same understanding. I think it is better when you go on with your believes and I hold on to mine.
By the way I enjoy your comments and posts and agree with them to some extent regardless of our different approach to perceive reality.
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Upwards of forty percent of scientific findings turn out to be false, when actually trying to reproduce the experiments they relied upon. You are just trusting what you read, trusting the current crop of hierarchs of knowledge, the gatekeepers of what is rational and not. This is a cultural product, and not some discovery of the objective reality of the universe, which likely, does not exist.
This is before we consider the fact that so many observable phenomenon are off limits to conventional science, such as body memory (heart transplant recipients gaining the memories of their donors, etc) or even the unchallengeable dogmas of science, including the demonstrable fact that the constants arent constant, etc.
Again, you have faith in people and a system that they have the key to objective reality.
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“…such as body memory (heart transplant recipients gaining the memories of their donors, etc)” and you say I have lost credibility? ROFLMAO!
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Look it up.
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I don´t get how you can point to scientific findings (data and experiments) being false and believing other data/experiments/findings. How do you know that constants are not constant and all your other claims. All these claims have to be derived from some observation. Or do you just assume that those ideas you read are true because they appeal to you?
My question is: How do you know when to trust an information about (supposedly) eviedence or findings??
You obviously read your information concerning science elsewhere or did you find it out all by yourself? And how can you decide that those informations are true while scientific knowledge and experiments are false? Don´t you see a problem with this?
(Hint: there is a well known method to sort this problem out)
And if you found it out by yourself then it should not be an issue to elaborate.
Also you write about the collapse of industrial civilisation and our predicaments, which we know thanks to scientific data and experiments e.g. climate change, peak everything etc. But again how to know which data and findings to trust, when constants and all those findings are “dogmatic”?
Dogmas in science? Its part of the scientific method to rely on older supported theories and build on them. But that does not make them to some sort of dogma. Indeed scientific theories change over time with newly discovered and proven hypothesis or disproven older ones.
Everything you posted in response to my comments seems to be a big contradiction.
Did you ever attend a science class, did some (scientific) experiments yourself or had anything to do with science at all?
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You speak of science as a monolith, and that is your first mistake. Science is a method and it is applied by a diverse amount of people trying to understand a myriad of things. It has its strengths and weaknesses, like anything. I do not believe science to be the end all be all of understanding the world we exist in, and i also recognize that it has limitations.
Look it up, a study was done where some scientists tried to redo the experiments from a number of random studies, and they got different results on about half of them. There is a lot of blind faith that papers released recognize some absolute truth.
The issue with the constants is totally true, look it up. The speed of light, the force of gravity, they were measured yearly and every year the different stations measuring them got slightly different results. Theory needed them to be constant, so eventually they were locked in where they are.
Again, science as a method is really great for measuring and determining some things, but dont presume that every facet of the existing universe is measurable by human beings at this time with their current abilities, and just because something hasnt been catalogued in such a way, doesnt mean that it doesnt exist or affect us.
Think of memory. Scientists do not know where memories are kept in the brain. You cannot measure how many memories you have. But you have them, dont you?
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This is just sad. Neuroscientists know EXACTLY where memories are stored in the brain, as well as numerous other capabilities.
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From here, the story becomes much more complex. The hippocampus is a region of the brain that is specialized to codifying and structuring memories, particularly autobiographical and episodic memories (memories about people, places, and events). However some scientists believe that memories are only held in the hippocampus temporarily, and are later re-coded and dispersed throughout the rest of the brain using a process called “memory consolidation,” which may happen during sleep. The precise way that long-term memories are structured and represented across billions of synapses is the subject of intense ongoing research and remains one of the great mysteries of neuroscience.
http://www.quora.com/Human-Memory/How-are-memories-stored-in-the-human-brain
Neuroscientists can see the brain light up when people think about different things, but no memory is just right here or right there in a way they can pin down. Memories are stored sort of just all over through out the brain.
Plants can remember, but they dont have a brain. This was demonstrated by a scientist who dropped mimosa plants in a contraption until they stopped perceiving the drop as a threat, and ceased to curl up their leaves. When tested up to twenty eight days later, they remembered that the stimuli was not a threat. No brain, but a capability to remember,
Then there are the many tales of people who received the memories of people they received heart transplants from, but you disbelieve that without, i would guess, even looking into it. Instead of thinking, wow, thats fascinating, how would that work, you instead thought, nope, that cannot be true, so it doesnt warrant reading about. How scientific of you.
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Again you just state it is true because you said so (or you read it and all I should do is look it up). I could not find any indication that the constants are changing. In contrast if they were changing our universe would change dramatically. Furthermore you did not explain how you decide which findings you consider to be true and which not..
Also regarding the scientists who redid some studies. It would be interesting which studies, in which field etc. (there are a lot of corrupted studies and bad science out there…) Just the claim that some studies were wrong or bad science or whatever does not indicate that it applies to all fields all studies or the scientific process in general.
You obviously lack some knowledge in some fields, as we all do, but claim that you know better than the scientists?
This was my last comment on this post because I don´t think we will agree on anything we are talking about.
P.S. I don´t look at science as a monoltih and made that pretty clear in my comments. Also were is my second mistake?
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Google is your friend. Look at the issue of constants not being constant, there is a lot out there.
Also, look up how now the big bang is being called into question by quantum physicists. If a lay person were to question the big bang, they would be laughed at and taunted by those who attend the church of science and believe whatever the experts now tell them to believe. But now the script may change.
Science has uses. But they are limited, and that needs to be remembered. Peoples common experiences have value, and just because something hasnt been poked and prodded by a scientist doesnt mean it is de facto bullshit.
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“Upwards of forty percent of scientific findings turn out to be false,”
Which means that 60% are true, which is enough to ratchet our comprehension forward in a positive direction (truthily speaking) just that little bit year by year. Not to say that truths discovered or ascertained are utilized in the best of fashions.. that is a different realm of argument altogether.
I mean, it’s as if people knew that exponential human population growth was a potential problem, and they knew how to control population, but then chose not to…
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Oh, and ALL human cultures are hierarchical. Hunting meat in groups is what molded humans to be social and cooperative, and to follow a leader. Plus, males always dominate females, to one extent or another. Likewise, warfare has been a feature of human life since we climbed out of the trees. This is amply spelled out in anthropological and archeological studies.
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And i can point to studies that show that you are wrong. Not to mention, leadership is not necessarily hierarchical. You can follow someones lead when they are more experienced than you, it doesnt necessarily mean you are their subject.
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Ha! Eventually – Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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This is not a counter argument to my claim.
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I’m sorry to see that your gift has been met with hostility. In your exchange with Gail I see a most unwelcome confirmation of a line I read tonight in a blog that lies squarely in what is called the Alternative Right (gasp!):
“Like a rapper’s retinue, climate change was always in the company of elements I found unpalatable. Hysteria, hyperbole, deception, and demonization.”
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Writers must take risks.
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This expression of martyrdom is unbecoming.
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How about go fuck yourself? Is that unbecoming? Youre being an asshole, and youre doing it on purpose.
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That bitch is banned from here, henceforth. I’ve had enough of her, as have others.
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There is no point to anything she is saying. Every single comment is trolling, trying to instigate a fight. I hesitate to call anyone a nasty name, but agree that she is not a productive person to have commenting.
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Never let it be said of a dendrophile that they can’t see the woods for the trees.
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For men it’s status. There must be some perception that they have some value in the eyes of others. Why do you think a gangster will risk life in prison or death just because someone bad mouthed him? He is simply defending the only status he has. Backing down is social death. Privileged white men use do the same (Dual) it was just more formal. Religion is useful as a force multiplier, but not necessary to get men to line up to be slaughtered or slaughter the enemy. We were probably into warfare while we were still in the trees. Our cousins who we share 98% of our DNA still live in the trees and go on regular raids targeting one or two neighboring chimps caught off guard away from their group.
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Trying to extrapolate cultural trends and apply them broad base as human nature is poor thinking.
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Poor thinking is blaming one particular culture for what is well established as universal human behavior.
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Just a few bad apples spoiled an otherwise peaceful, harmonious, kumbaya bunch. We should divide them into different species, so we can pretend that it did not have to be this way. Fucking white people!
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I don’t want to start a fight, but it is not about “fucking white people.” We were taken prisoner first, and have gone on to put others in chains.
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I was being sarcastic …..or trying to be.
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Benign rulers are hard to come by.
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Hahaha. Now youre losing any credibility. Claims of universally established human behavior (likely ignoring the majority of humans who ever lived) are pretty brash.
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RIght. All evidence of “bad” human behavior belongs to the “historical”, while “good” human behavior -purely coincidentally, mind you!- remains in the realm of the undocumented and unknowable…
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That is why the Feminist movement should follow Rachel Carson instead of Sheryl Sandberg.
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My comment was in reply to Witsendnj’s ” Only the advent of fossil fuels enabled the (very partial) liberation of women and abolition of slavery and child labor. It will quickly revert when fossil fuel is no longer cheap”. Feminism has enabled industrialism and vice versa.
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a small rant to stop electricity or any other profits in german: http://peakaustria.blogspot.co.at/2015/02/weder-ein-kornukopia-noch-ein-cargo.html try to meditate over the coming chaos with small doodles i twitter nearly daily.
and yes also catton gave us small hints to talk about death of people expecially homo collossuses. when we alter the collapse and we buy us time how long? my spouse asked herself: will we kill all too dominant sociopaths like wolfs do it when alphas are too dominant? how can we keep the greedy alphas under control so that they also live in a sustainable eco niche and not use technology or others for their selfish advance to be the next übermensch…or just go ahead and do it like the wolfs and discuss it after the dark age.
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A Pencil Sketch of our Predicament
February 9, 2015 at 4:42pm
As some of us have noticed, the human experiment is in a bind. A predicament, a clusterfuck, call it what you will. However, there are some very interesting things about this noticing.
Yes indeed, there is cognitive dissonance and the mangled wreckage of good intentions strewn all over Growth Highway #1. That’s what you get when you let a species that’s barely out of chimpanzeehood drive the planet.
This cognitive dissonance and functional ineffectiveness is the reason that COP15 blew its brains out in Copenhagen at the end of 2009. That grim milestone was what drove me to look for factors that might underlie the apparent irreversibility of the human growth-mania. After five years of root cause analysis I’ve ended up in an odd place. I have a firm conviction that our growth fixation is a direct consequence of how the Second Law of Thermodynamics operates in open systems, specifically non-equilibrium thermodynamics as implemented by living organisms.
The growth of other species is eventually limited by energy availability and predation. However, homo sapiens presents a special case. This is due to our social nature, self-awareness, intense abstract intelligence, and our ability to conceive of non-obvious uses for things in our environment (like flint arrowheads, coal and uranium, for example).
Because survival and growth are the prime evolutionary imperatives of all organisms, our special fitness traits have all been channeled towards achieving survival and growth. To have done otherwise would have violated bedrock evolutionary principles and ensured our early extinction. In order to preserve our overwhelming evolutionary advantage we ignore, marginalize and devalue the ideas of anyone who tries to stand between human activity and the use of any required resources, whether those resources are animal, vegetable or mineral – or other humans.
Of course there are many other factors involved, such as our anthropocentrism, our short-term thinking, and our social nature that divides us into tribes and nations. But I trace the whole predicament back to thermodynamic and evolutionary roots. On a planet populated by a species of hyper-intelligent social animals with thumbs, blessed with an ample surplus of stored carbon-based energy, a bad outcome was inevitable, IMO. The details of how it has happened are largely window dressing.
There is a popular, near-universal belief that we can reverse this course by using our consciousness and our conscience, by applying technology to what Dave Pollard rightly points out is a social rather than a technological problem – one which I believe has deep, irreversible biophysical roots.
The collective delusion that we can reverse our course through conscious choice has to be one of the most ironic jokes ever played on our species by a Universe with a morbidly twisted sense of humour. This delusion, which was perhaps first intuited by the ancient Greeks, is what has turned the last 200,000 years of modern human experience into a planetary Greek tragedy, the denouement of which is now in view.
For more depth, see this essay: http://www.paulchefurka.ca/ParadiseLost.html
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Ernest Becker, 1970: “…whereas I once as a social scientist dedicatedly followed Rousseau in his straight-forward view that man is natural or good, and is “corrupted by society,” I slighted the darker side, the side of human evil and viciousness. As we will see from these pages man IS mostly innocent, really potential good, even naturally noble; and as we will stress, society IS responsible, largely, for shaping people, for giving them opportunities for unfolding more freely and more unafraid. But this unfolding is confused and complicated by man’ s basic animal fears: by his deep and indelible anxieties about his own impotence and death, and his fear of being overwhelmed and sucked up into the world and into others. All this gives his life a quality of drivenness, of underlying desperation, an obsession with the meaning of it and with his own significance as a creature. And this is what drives him to try to make his mark on the world, to try to twist it and turn it to his own designs, to bury over the rumbling anxieties; and this usually means that he tries to twist and turn others, make his mark on them, use them to justify his own problematic life. As Rank put it so bluntly: Man creates “out of freedom a prison.” This means everyman, in any society, from the most “primitive” to the most “civilized”, no matter what the child training programs or economic system.”
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0029021901/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Look how efficient the tech-no logging industry is. Only one man and a machine….. and a few unlucky little bears. Oh well that’s the price of cheap furniture. I love IKEA!
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Have you heard of Plum Creek Timber co? Our farm is surrounded on two sides by thier comercial forest operation and they are going to do a early spring clear cut. I think that is a mortal sin against nature considering spring is prime breeding time for so many species, but I want to keep a low profile agains such a powerful industry. Not only do I hate what they are doing, but the noise totally ficks up my spring nature worship.
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Look into the origins of Plum Creek and you will find that most of the timber land they owned around the turn of the century was railroad land that had been granted to the railroads by the US Government in order to open up the west. The railroads needed the timber for the railroad ties, fuel, and a wide swath of land to plot the best route to the west. After the railroad was laid, it was in the agreement with the US Government that most of the “Checkerboard” lands granted to the railroads would be auctioned off to homesteaders to populate the newly opened west, with railroad stops for commerce, etc. Instead of the auctions, the railroad owners and executives sold off the land to Timber companies (Such as Plum Creek) which they themselves, their friends and cronies owned. So no homesteaders got in on the deal, which was the original intent of the law granting the checkerboard land to the railroads.
As far as I am concerned Plum Creek is an illegal corporation which began under fraudulent means, and it’s land was fraudulently obtained. But my opinion is worth as much as a flies shit in a hurricane when it comes to Corporate control of America, Corporate Cronyism, and the theft of land which was to be granted to Americans, not Corporations.
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I called the state forestry commission to see if there were any regulations on when logging could occur, and some rude witch replied, “they own the land, so they can do whatever they please”. I was so shocked that a “Government Employee” would have such a “Free Market” attitude, that I answered, “I own my land and there are lot of things I can’t do”. Then I told her that I was going to call the DNR because she obviously wasn’t interested in my concerns. In my red state, the Government exists to protect industry, not the tax payers or the environment. I wish I had said something about growing pot or having a meth lab on the land you own.
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I had a dream that a very angry Mother Nature was about to teach us a lesson and show us that she was in the drivers seat. Strangely she was disguised in the form of a Cuban drug lord.
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Hey Mike. It appears now that the fracking industry in Pennsylvania is getting its chance to brainwash high school students. This state has a drooling obsessive fetish over fracking.
http://wnep.com/2015/02/11/bringing-energy-careers-to-the-classroom/
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São Paulo drought raises fears of Brazil energy crisis
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a140a1e6-b14e-11e4-a830-00144feab7de.html#slide0
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Don’t waste your time getting caught up in the anthropological and cultural reasons for our demise. We have to stop blaming and start doing. If you want to get caught up in the unending drama of The Lord of The Flies, just go over to Nature Bats Last. I totally believe we will fail, and totally believe we must try. I call it Cognitive Harmony.
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Indeed. At the end of the day, i can care less whether this or that people were better or worse at this or that thing. We have shit that we must do, so lets get on with it.
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I do not know what to do, td0s.
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Have some kids!
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All the smart people understand, so we are wasting time with all the deep intellectual discussions on why we are in such a mess. We need to figure out a way to convince all the stupid people because there is a lot more of them.
What is the difference between the enlightened elite vs people like the Koch Bros? Is it that it takes a different kind of intelligence to transcend ego? David Koch sponsors the program Nova on PBS, so he has an interest in science.
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I don’t think all the smart people do understand, unless your definition is circular and smart=one who understands. Jonathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind and Will Storr’s Heretics explain why intelligence is no defense against unwisdom and error. Dave Cohen over at Decline of the Empire is good on this subject. Very good.
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Thanks for the link, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bOE1HFEL8XA
I like your avitar, that is how I feel. Fuck it all, I’m so glad I didn’t have any kids. The only thing I got from reading everything here is the definition of Absurdism. The sooner I die, the better. George Carlin said it best when he described humans as being a fungus or parasite on the earth’s surface.
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Dr. Peter Ward, paleontologist and author of The Medea Hypothesis puts it bluntly in a 2011 interview:
“My view of life on Earth is that it’s a huge board game, and every species has but one goal: To take over the planet. And every species that could, would, if it got the chance. So we’re just doing what evolution has pounded into us: Produce as many of yourselves as you can. Make sure that, as you produce, you aren’t threatened in your production, and co-opt all the planet’s resources. Kill any competitors and spread to every place that you possibly can. We’re doing all of that. We get the prize, ironically, because of the brains that we have.”
~ posted at http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/2014/10/something-where-god-used-to-be.html
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Damn, that is a pretty good analogy for the evolutionary game. Thank you for sharing this.
I also did not know your website. Looked a little into it and liked it very much on the first glance.
Thanks again 😉
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So “Free Will” is another one of our delusions?
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The latest word from neuroscience is…nope.
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As in…no, we do not have free will. Our unconscious dictates actions that our conscious mind then finds reasons for.
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That’s right. Post hoc rationalization.
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You’re welcome. I wasn’t too sure anyone would notice what the avatar hints at. I stole it from the first page of Daniel Clowes’s My Suicide. The whole thing isn’t online that I can find, unfortunately. 🙂
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My avitar would be dangling flip flops. Whin I have more time I plan to look at the links you posted. What do you think of this quote, “the right has a strategy, what’s ours?”
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I’m the wrong person to ask, because I don’t give tuppenny-ha’penny. I read John Zerzan for breakfast and I am well-acquainted with the fact that Zerzan is determined to never again be arrested. I’m foursquare with that and doing the golden nothing about our predicament, other than being as kind and thoughtful as I can to everyone, especially on the internet.
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Also Louise – you might enjoy this version of the impossibility/futility of sustainability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbtRiLamsw
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That is a perfect example of (damn I Can’t think). Yesterday I bought some organic cellery, but noticed it was grown in mexico.
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Thank you so much for that! I will check out your blog also. It is crazy around here, our well burst and it is my anniversary. Valentine’s Day is another consumerist invention, I hate that it is my anniversary.
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@misericordia, I’m off to read those links, after I talk to
@Louise. I went to MIT and was surrounded -obviously- by “smart” people. But most of them are perceptually-speaking, profoundly defective. One acquaintance stands out, a professor who was the head of his own biology lab there (now at Tufts), who has planned, and still plans, to have his head frozen à la Ted Williams. So that he might be resurrected at some future date. Forgive me if I have mentioned this elsewhere, but it is just too significant and bizarre not to invoke when the context beckons.
I find the whole scenario hilarious: not only is the idea of attaching someone’s head to a spare body as part of a Frankensteinian experiment narcissistic, pointless, and unlikely to be scientifically pursued given more urgent claims on our talent and resources… but.. even if it were possible, my “smart” friend chooses to entirely ignore the entirety of human nature and the greater likelihood that the custodians of the frozen head will -within some few years- declare bankruptcy and dump their half-thawed charges behind a crappy warehouse overridden with weeds in Schenectady or Marietta, to be enjoyed by whatever local canine and avian inhabitants there may remain.
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brain farts
CORRUPTION 101
James Hansen wants you to get 100% of your carbon taxes back, the Rockefellers want some.
General Electric and Westinghouse own nuclear/renewable energy.
They will tear earth apart along with Monsanto to sell you perishable, part-time mineral energy commodities.
Food is the renting of minerals and energy, we are just water, minerals and energy.
It is literally impossible to continually replace for 9 billion people limited mineral commodities as perishable, intermittent, energy. Recycling their alloys is dirtier and uses more energy than mining for them does. All humanity is already post-peak food in several major categories. Post peak water is here now. Post peak energy and minerals is soon. Financial collapse is first. You were told house prices will go up forever and now you are told solar-wind energy is forever. We have to pay for it. Nuclear waste won’t clean up itself. We are in an emissions-depletion-extinction free-fall. Splitting into renewable vs. nuclear opposition prevents action to save our life on earth.
http://www.reddit.com/r/RenewableEnergy/comments/2tz0s7/how_to_fix_everything/
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U.S. Droughts Will Be the Worst in 1,000 Years
The Southwest and central Great Plains will dry out even more than previously thought-February 12, 2015
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-droughts-will-be-the-worst-in-1-000-years1/
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New sinkholes appear in Yamal
Another eight sinkholes have been discovered near the giant Bovanenkovo gas field in the Yamal Peninsula.
http://barentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2015/02/new-sinkholes-appear-yamal-12-02
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Full Mental Jacket
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Darwin fails to explain evolution.
How can a gene accidently camouflage an octopus?
Religion cannot explain life.
We do not live past death.
Science cannot explain the universe.
There are no parallel universes or faster than light space travel.
Here’s what we got:
A Call In The Dark
Screwing with earth’s lighting system while we make disposable phones is stupid.
brain turds
Klein = Ford Cars & Oil Billionaire Rockefellers
She tells us to divest and that green NGOs are corrupted by money, yet she says she doesn’t know were her money comes from except that her husband’s video project about her life is funded by the oil-investor Ford Foundation. The Rockefellers fund her and 350.org to make sure governments and corporations get control of future carbon taxes, instead of returning it all to you, the one who will pay them. The Rockefellers invented the oil age, they are now inventing the carbon age because they are smart. It’s not complicated.
brain farts
CORRUPTION 101
James Hansen wants you to get 100% of your carbon taxes back, the Rockefellers want some.
General Electric and Westinghouse own nuclear/renewable energy.
They will tear earth apart along with Monsanto to sell you perishable, part-time mineral energy commodities.
Food is the renting of minerals and energy, we are just water, minerals and energy.
It is literally impossible to continually replace for 9 billion people limited mineral commodities as perishable, intermittent, energy. Recycling their alloys is dirtier and uses more energy than mining for them does. All humanity is already post-peak food in several major categories. Post peak water is here now. Post peak energy and minerals is soon. Financial collapse is first. You were told house prices will go up forever and now you are told solar-wind energy is forever. We have to pay for it. Nuclear waste won’t clean up itself. We are in an emissions-depletion-extinction free-fall. Splitting into renewable vs. nuclear opposition prevents action to save our life on earth.
http://www.reddit.com/r/RenewableEnergy/comments/2tz0s7/how_to_fix_everything/
brain rush
Down To Earth Solutions
If we mixed charcoal with 2% of earth’s soils, we can offset carbon emissions 100%.
Mixing charcoal into soil is 6X more efficient than anything else we can do.
Mixing fossil plankton shells into soil remedies nuclear waste in ways unexplainable.
We can produce energy that pulls more carbon out of the air than it emits.
Check out: http://peaksurfer.blogspot.ca/2015/02/fuke-undo.html
Or: http://peaksurfer.blogspot.ca
brain recipe
Money Is The Air We Breathe
Our mass agriculture and livestock are to blame for 80% of species extinctions.
If we don’t take action like yesterday, our life will start coming to a complete and full no-going-back stop. period. The only way to do this is to use money to cut across all national, racial and sexual barriers. We have to recognize carbon as a new world currency. Ocean plankton is declining 1% per year, at this rate it will be 100% gone in 70 years. This won’t matter, because when it is more than 50% gone, you can’t breathe.
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Toxic orange cloud spreads over Catalonia after chemical blast
Residents told to close windows and seal air vents after dense cloud hovers over six municipalities in central Catalonia
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/12/toxic-orange-cloud-spreads-over-catalonia-after-chemical-blast-spain
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I have looked at this for one year and today is the hottest daily Earth temperature I have seen:
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/DailySummary/
The variation between high and low in that year has been about 0.60 degrees C.
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Someone should do something…. Or maybe not.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/feb/12/us-faces-worst-droughts-1000-years-climate-change-predict-scientists
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Just ran across this on Twitter…
The myth of the ‘Brutal Savage’
How some writers are pushing the view that tribal people are particularly violent.
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Angry Papuan leaders demand Jared Diamond apologizes 4 February 2013
http://www.survivalinternational.org/news/8958
See, the tribal people have gone PC. So they are just like the rest of us. I knew it!
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F**k Jared Diamond
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You can’t be pure enough…they even went after Jimmy Nelson – http://www.survivalinternational.org/articles/3373-jimmy-nelson-before-they-pass-away
for this! – http://www.beforethey.com/
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I still see this whole argument as pushing some kind of agenda. White guilt? It did not have to be this way? The system forced me to consume and it still is, otherwise I would give up my possessions? Culture varies, but we are all capable of the worst acts of brutality.
One of the best responses, hell the best actually, I have heard is from Lidia the other day over at NBL.
Lidia Says:
February 12th, 2015 at 4:03 pm
http://westerndigs.org/skeletons-in-utah-cave-are-victims-of-prehistoric-war-study-says/
https://bonesdontlie.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/evidence-of-massacre-in-ancient-turkey/
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305440309000247
This is pretty cool:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090114075921.htm
The ancients’ capacity for violence seems, if anything, greater than our own.
I know this is not the older sort of evidence you would like, but… since turnabout is fair play.. do you think that humans instantly became Violent, became a different creature, in the short space of a few thousand years?
It seems as though you acknowledge your position to be a religious one: since no one can disprove [the existence of God / ancient human benevolence], it must be true, or at least conceivable? Why?
The proof of how humans have been for as long as we have records of their existence points to a common sort of behavior. I would say that it is the more extraordinary claim to posit that, outside of the data set we do have, somehow it was magically otherwise. It’s certainly possible, but unlikely. Other primates have shown murderous aggression against members of their own species; arguing that ancient humans behaved differently both from other primates and from modern humans is the weaker case, and so I think it is you who should provide the preponderance of evidence.
People arguing here about human nature mainly have the defect of not stepping back enough, away from “what it means to be Human”, and towards “what does it mean to be a living organism which is an energy collector and conduit, like all life-forms on the planet”?
If plants and trees did not compete, they would all arrange themselves flat on the ground to share the solar power.. but they do not, do they? They grow up and over each other and strangle each other and crowd each other out. You just don’t choose to see this as violence.
Humans evolved as top predators. In the yawning, abyssal, absence of other things to predate upon, it’s to be expected we turn on ourselves.
There is absolutely no warrant to hold “human nature” somehow apart from “nature nature”. I find it ironic that folks from among the significant group of “spiritualists” who comment here are the ones who seem to be making this dualist argument.
http://guymcpherson.com/2015/02/a-conversation-with-paul-ehrlich/#comment-155889
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I don’t understand the noble savage argument either. Humans are thermodynamic beasts and may show some cooperation amongst each other, but when it comes down to it, someone or something has to die for us to be nourished, and when we begin stepping into each others claimed territories, the bullets and arrows will fly. The past was brutal. If a couple had six children, on average, four had to die to maintain stability, but we solved that little problem with technology. Humans don’t want anyone messing with their “God given right” to take advantage of the ecosystem, to be thermodynamic pests, energy and matter magnates without a conscience, often just to satisfy whimsical desires. What is a “God given right”? It is statement of intent not to suppress subconscious desires laid down by evolution before thought even existed and which have served, until now, to facilitate our survival. Now they will guarantee our demise.
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One of the funnier things about the “noble savage” purveyors (often also proponents of a vegetarian diet) is their misplaced emphasis on human cooperation over competition. Of course both exist. But the main motivation, the evolutionarily selected trait for cooperation, is that hunting is far more successful (and safe) when done in a group. Whether it is driving the megafauna to extinction, or exterminating other hominids in competition for habitat, whoever cooperates best in a group will be the most successful hunters and warriors.
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Stephen Corry, in his passion to protect indigenous people, sets up straw man arguments and twists the positions of others. This isn’t surprising, as this Atlantic article describes the reluctance of some American Indians to allow DNA testing that might turn out to show migration patterns that contradict their preferred narratives: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/the-cultural-limitations-of-genetic-testing/384740/ The fear, and it is well-founded, is that if it is shown scientifically that Indigenous people in America were, for instance, invading each other, it is seen as weakening their claim to land that was stolen from them.
Others see this knee-jerk ideology and lack of scientific rigor as ultimately detrimental and patronizing. I’ll let Jared Diamond explain himself how fanatically Corry ignores the facts with his reply posted here: http://www.jareddiamond.org/Jared_Diamond/Rousseau_Revisited.html
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Thanks, Gail.. Interesting! Interesting also in the sense of what people seem to think is a worthwhile occupation at this point..
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The world is pretty harsh. So homo sapiens would not have survived to this day and sit in front of its computer (at least we, who are fortunate enough to debate such things) when he would not have been pretty harsh itself. This behaviour is applied toward every other animal which competes with it for resources as for other hominids (neanderthalensis, erectus, florensis etc.) and for its own kind.
And it is so obvious to see.It just needs one group that is a little bit more violent than another group and the less violent group is done for (or catches up on the violence). Or a better coordinated group which is as violent as the other groups.
I mean how can someone believe that people would live peacefully together although we often can not agree on the simplest things in everyday life? And everybody has probably lost control over his/her emotions to some extent in some moments of his/her life. Certainly as a child or in moments of success or utter failure.
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Yes, you would think it would be as obvious as, um, Zeus does not exist, and neither does Thor, and neither do countless other deities that people have worshipped and fervently believed were real throughout human history AND prehistory. This religious fantasy has been replaced, in the modern educated world, with “spirituality” and the myth that prior tribal incarnations were more perfect than current industrial society. Thus is expressed the delusional hope, the faith, the unfounded belief that there is some other iteration of human behavior possible, at least in the deep past, that we could theoretically revert to or revive. You can no more convince the acolytes of this paradigm that they are wrong than you could convince a Mayan priest it really isn’t going to improve the weather to spill the blood of thousands of slaves.
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You may have no gods before me. Its as simple as that. Anyone who tries to show that there can be other cultures other than the dominant culture, cultures that might be more desirable, will be shit all over by defenders of the status quo. Ignore, push forward.
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Simple observation will tell any sensible person that indigenous populations have survived off their local lands for eons and to this day, they are really the only groups of people trying to halt the damage done by colonialist powers and capitalist industrial civilization, as Noam Chomsky has pointed out. No need to argue this point with those who cannot see. “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see,” said Leonardo da Vinci.
Noam Chomsky: Indigenous people “are the ones taking the lead in trying to protect all of us”
“Throughout the world, indigenous societies are struggling to protect what they sometimes call ‘the rights of nature,’ while the civilized and sophisticated scoff at this silliness.” – Chomsky
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It is a testament to the strength of their cultures that they have survived this long facing a relentless onslaught from the growth based world. I tend to think that people almost always hold to their culture no matter what is happening. Look how westerners defend and cling to a life of empty consumption. I was thinking about that story of native Alaskans that push their psychopathic members of the edge of the ice. In our culture the psychopaths push anyone in their way off the edge while the rest shrug their shoulders and aspire to be a pusher. If industrial civ was to collapse before it destroys them they might be the last ones standing.
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I’m not satisfied with the completely mechanistic view of the world that some here wholeheartedly espouse. In fact, I believe that such thinking leads us towards certain disaster:
…Between 1500 and 1700 an incredible transformation took place. A “natural” point of view about the world in which bodies did not move unless activated, either by an inherent organic mover or a “contrary to nature” superimposed “force,” was replaced by a non-natural nonexperiential “law” that bodies move uniformly unless hindered. The “natural” perception of a geocentric earth in a finite cosmos was superseded by the “non natural” commonsense “fact” of a heliocentric infinite universe. A subsistence economy in which resources, goods, money, or labor were exchanged for commodities was replaced in many areas by the open-ended accumulation of profits in an international market. Living animate nature died, while dead inanimate money was endowed with life. Increasingly capital and the market assumed the organic attributes of growth, strength, activity, pregnancy, weakness, decay, and collapse, obscuring and mystifying the new underlying social relations of production and reproduction that made economic growth and progress possible. Nature, women, blacks, and wage laborers were set on a path toward a new status as “natural” and as human resources for the modern world system. Perhaps the ultimate irony in these transformations was the new name given them: rationality. (27)
Although the mechanistic analysis of reality has dominated the western world since the seventeenth century, the organismic perspective has by no means disappeared. It has remained as an important underlying tension, surfacing in such variations as Romanticism, American transcendentalism, the German Nature philosophers, and the early philosophy of Karl Marx. The basic tenets of the organic view of nature have reappeared in the twentieth century in the theory of holism of Jan Christiaan Smuts, the process philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead, the ecology movement of the 1970s, and David Bohm’s holomovement (see Chapters 3 and 4). Some philosophers have argued that the two frameworks are fundamentally incommensurable. Others argue that a reassessment of the underlying metaphysics and values historically associated with the mechanistic worldview may be essential for a viable future. (28)
The mechanistic worldview continues today as the legitimating ideology of industrial capitalism and its inherent ethic of the domination of nature. Mechanistic thinking and industrial capitalism lie at the root of many of the environmental problems discussed in Chapter 1. The egocentric ethic associated with this worldview, however, has been challenged by the ecocentric ethic of the ecology movement (see Chapter 3) and the worldview itself by deep ecology (see Chapter 4).
http://www.history.vt.edu/Barrow/Hist3706/merchant.html
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Nature, Nurture and Culture
http://www.alternet.org/story/20492/nature,_nurture_and_culture
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^^ that’s the government propaganda, here is an article about the reality in Kenya where, as in almost all other “traditional” indigenous cultures, society is based on the division of labor and, nearly universally, the submission of women. You don’t have to be an advocate of western civilization to recognize that is what finally enabled women as a class to break free and gain any sort of equality. The same can be said for slavery in general – almost all tribal societies – have slaves, usually captive women and children from battles with other tribes.
http://www.latimes.com/world/great-reads/la-fg-c1-kenya-masai-women-20150210-story.html#page=1
For many Masai men, who are used to being served, even down to the heavy buckets of warm bathwater their wives lug for them to wash in, change is not just unthinkable. To them, the women such as Tombo have no right to speak, or attack Masai culture.
“For years, we Masai men have remained the head of the family in terms of making decisions. A woman is not entitled to give their opinions on day-to-day activities; neither can she be allowed to influence the men’s decisions,” says Kirayian ole Katimo, a 95-year-old Masai elder from Olorukoti village who has two wives and 13 children.
“A girl-child is not an asset; she is a liability and ought to be married off early to ease the family burden.”
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I notice in your comments that you are hell-bent on elevating capitalist industrial civilization as the most superior society to any indigenous cultures. The fact is, indigenous societies tend to be far more egalitarian than capitalist societies:
The toleration of cultural diversity is not a strong point of the culture of capitalism. The nation-state, its dominant political form, requires at least the appearance of cultural uniformity. Furthermore, the cultures of indigenous peoples often clash with the culture of capitalism: persons in indigenous societies often hold property in common, reducing or even precluding it being sold or traded. The mobility of many indigenous peoples, necessitated by shifting agriculture or herding, conflicts with the control needs of the nation-state. The kinship-based social organization often conflicts with the requirement for individual autonomy characteristic of the culture of capitalism. And indigenous societies tend to be far more egalitarian than societies of the culture of capitalism, reducing the needs of persons to assert their status through commodities. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, indigenous societies often control resources–land, mineral rights, intellectual resources–that are desired by members of the culture of capitalism. For these, among other reasons, indigenous cultures are fast disappearing, either through violent suppression and elimination, or through more subtle processes masked under the rubric of “modernization,” “economic development,” or “assimilation.” The following selections are intended to help you understand how and why our cultural heritages are fast disappearing…
http://faculty.plattsburgh.edu/richard.robbins/legacy/indigenous_readings.htm
Violence against women in this culture of capitalism that you hold up as superior to all else is pervasive:
“Capitalist Patriarchy Has Aggravated Violence Against Women”
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LOL. If you actually think I’m “hell-bent on elevating capitalist industrial civilization as the most superior society to any indigenous cultures” then you are simply not reading what I actually write. I’m not “elevating capitalist industrial civilization”. I’m simply saying that to romanticize other cultures as non-violent, egalitarian, and sustainable is simply not realistic or factual. Since we are at the endocene anyway, it only matters in the sense that truth has meaning…and it is our very capacity and propensity for fanciful, unrealistic, blinded delusion that has brought humanity to this ecocide, an inexorable and accelerating path that began when we began to use tools, and control fire, to hunt animals in groups, to migrate to latitudes that require burning fuel in order to be habitable for our species. The small-minded obsession with “capitalism” is historically absurd, as humans drove dozens of megafauna to extinction long before agriculture, waged wars large and small long before industrialization, and deforested enormous regions of earth long before capitalism. Blaming capitalism amounts to some sort of religion, as though we could be saved without it.
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Can you stop with the childish “LOL”?
Show me an indigenous tribe that changed the salinity of all oceans, altered global CO2 levels, brought about a worldwide mass extinction, and ultimately exterminated themselves. You can’t, because they never did that and their culture would not allow it. Period.
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Would I be more mature if I said “fuck Jared Diamond”? Who by the way, says of Corry, much of what I would say of the “Noble Savage” proponents in general:
Clearly, Corry’s passionate condemnation of my book is driven by something other than the facts. I don’t know him personally, so I can only guess, extrapolating from similar views held by some others. Many of us, including both Corry and me, are outraged by mistreatment of traditional tribal peoples. Sometimes the perpetrators justify their behaviour by citing tribal practices that we condemn, such as warfare, infanticide, widow strangling, and abandoning the elderly. Hence some well-meaning defenders of traditional peoples, including apparently Corry, feel it necessary to deny the existence of those practices, despite the abundant evidence for their existence.
That’s a very bad idea – “extremely dangerous,” to use Corry’s words where they really belong. If you object to the mistreatment of traditional people on the mistaken grounds that they are supposedly not guilty of warfare and those other things, the truth will eventually come out, as it is likely to come out in any case of disputed facts. When it does come out, then your badly chosen objection to the mistreatment of tribal peoples will have been demolished.. Mistreatment of tribal peoples should be condemned not because you claim that they are peaceful when they really are not. It should instead be condemned on moral grounds: the mistreatment of any people is wrong. That’s what makes Corry’s views so dangerous. It saddens me to see him espousing a policy in which I believe, but discrediting that policy by invalid arguments.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…
You didn’t answer me:
Show me an indigenous tribe that changed the salinity of all oceans, altered global CO2 levels, brought about a worldwide mass extinction, and ultimately exterminated themselves. You can’t, because they never did that and their culture would not allow it. Period.
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Indigenous tribes are like precancerous polyps. Most of the ingredients for runaway growth are there, but for some reason an ingredient is missing. I’ll have to check the Annals of Pathological Civilizations to find it. I’ll get back to you.
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China.
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That’s not an example. Multinational corporations exported capitalism to China, and last time I checked, Beijing has become more cutthroat capitalist than its mentors.
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Presumably you agree the Chinese are “indigenous” in the sense that, generations of the same people have occupied the territory as far back as you can go. Their capitalism is homegrown, not imposed from outside – they were polluting the air and water, deforesting and damming rivers long before there was substantial foreign investment – and it was their choice to import foreign capital. I do think it would help you to read some history (and this is from a far left publication!): http://www.internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article117
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You did not bother to read the links in my last reply. “Their capitalism” is no more homegrown than any other place that transnationals exploit.
Go reread my previous comment(with links) and maybe you’ll learn something.
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Yes I did. It’s a polemic about multinational involvement, exploitation if you will, NOW. Had you read the link I posted, you would have learned that the Chinese government made a deliberate turn towards a capitalist system ON ITS OWN over two decades ago – and that’s from a left-wing perspective. (Note: Chinese have ALWAYS had an extremely stratified society with extremes of wealth and poverty, that was not brought on by capitalism.) Here’s another account of their process from the libertarian thinktank Cato Institute, which is in basic agreement – http://www.cato.org/policy-report/januaryfebruary-2013/how-china-became-capitalist
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I’m afraid to say that the shit you spew is polemic, and your completely ignorant about world economics and American empire. I really can’t listen to anymore of your bullshit, quoting crap from Cato. Now that’s funny.
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“I notice in your comments that you are hell-bent on elevating capitalist industrial civilization as the most superior society to any indigenous cultures.”
Mike, I do not see that at all. Rather, Gail and I and others recognize some common human behavioral threads over time. The fact that there may be outliers does not disprove the general theory, any more than outliers in strength or power disprove a generally-shared physical condition.
What you and some others seem to be arguing is that, prior to a certain point, humans either were less-than or more-than or at any rate OTHER THAN human as we are now. That may not necessarily the case and, as Gail has mentioned, I see it as wishful projection to a fantastical time when humans were more praiseworthy… in other words, Not Human! She rightly points out the analogy to religious myth.
On the other hand, if humans DID have a different behavior (the way dogs have been bred to express different behaviors over many generations), what would it matter? You can’t scold a bassett hound for not being a chihuahua.
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Who made you some authority on human behavior or the evolution of culture? I think I’ll take the words of Chomsky, other qualified social scientists, and my own common sense over Gail, you, and other blowhards.
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24% of Earth’s land is Indigenous territory. That territory holds 80% of earth’s biodiversity. This is not a coincidence.
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No coincidence indeed.
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We are all in this together. Heidegger says that we are “thrown into existence”. Physicists say that their was nothing, then suddenly their was an explosion birthing our universe. Fiat Lux. Everyone and everything without exception is part of this event of manifestation. None of us had any part whatever in our being here. Of myself I have created nothing. All that is has been created by some incredible Reality beyond myself. It behooves us to be kind to all our fellow beings who also find themselves here without a clear knowledge of how we came to be. Some of us spend much of our lives trying to understand this Mystery. We seek That which is beyond ourselves. Our search gives us our most profound possibility of meaning, and Grace…
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Underwater Volcanoes Linked to Climate Change in New Study
http://www.weather.com/science/environment/news/underwater-volcanoes-climate-change-global-warming?_escaped_fragment_
Something had to give – Baffin Island hit by M4.6 earthquake
http://arctic-news.blogspot.ca/
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Many of us on this or other collapse sites are going through the experiences of an animal who has just been hit by a steel trap. All the cascade of emotional, physiologic, and cognitive responses are set in motion. Except the trap in our case turns out to be life itself, and we were hit by it at the moment of conception. We have been initiated into a process of aspiration and agony that began eons ago.
Life arose in a Universe determined to destroy it. We have been fighting to survive from our very beginning. The odds seem to be overwhelmingly against us, and yet we continue. The seeds of our possible defeat lie within our very desperate drive to thrive and survive. Our best weapons are turning against us. Only an improbable judo of the Spirit can save us….
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The tiny difference in the quantity of positrons and electrons, antimatter and matter in the early Universe set up the basic axis for the cosmic drama to ensue in the complex interactions that have unfolded. The exciting and dangerous tango between life and death, love and hate, good and evil was on! How will it end? It is always ending and beginning. The moment of creation is the moment of annihilation which is again the moment of creation. And yet something high and ineffable is being alchemically distilled from this cosmic flux. Do not ask “what is it?” go and make your visit. Your searching cannot find it, but it might make it possible for it to find you.
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Prufrock is my favorite poem, ever…Do I dare to eat a peach?
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The truths that might save us lie in dimensions beyond our understanding. Access to these truths requires a leap into the unknown, where all our certainties may prove incorrect and useless. This is the “magic theater for madmen only” Hesse wrote of. As Ouspensky said coming out of a nitrous oxide trip, “think in other categories”. Or better zen “enter no mind and leave the baggage of your intellect and experience behind for a time – you can pick it up later if you still want to use it”. Einstein “the methods that got us into this mess will not serve to get us out of it.”
Our most cherished beliefs have become a prison dooming us to extinction. What will it take to make us dare to jump? Our so-called creativity only moves us in the same futile circles.
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http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/155042/explosion-hits-libya-oil-pipeline
Gheddafi, Saddam, Mubarak, someone is starting missing them…
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Of course there will be those who say, “Give us THE Answer or shut up and join us in despair, or else just leave us alone.” If one were to say, “Solutions will require a process of creative enquiry.”
Then they will reply, “We already did that, and have concluded that there is no possible answer.” To which one can only reply, “How can you be so absolutely sure, is it possible you could be wrong?”
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Mike, you have had many great comments across this topic. I havent responded to many, as I have had nothing to add, but wanted you to know i appreciate many of them.
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Thanks tdOs. I sometimes think my posts are like what Gurdjieff called “pouring from the empty into the void.” I am not unaware that some of my thoughts are quite contrarian to how many are thinking on this blog. I just have learned to question anyone’s pretensions to absolute knowledge. I am fully aware that our chances of near term survival are exceedingly slim (depending of course on how one defines “near term”.) But my hope that there might be some way out of our plunge towards extinction refuses to be extinguished. The story of how Fermat’s last conjecture was finally proven is a favorite of mine. However difficult a problem may present itself, you never know if an incredible and unlikely solution may exist somewhere just beyond our present understanding. Chasing that elusive beast becomes a fascinating quest worth pursuing, especially since the prize in this case is the continuance of the human experiment….
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Solutions & Answers? What Solutions & Answers are there for the already well underway 3 dozen or so positive self reinforcing feedback loops? This is what I’m talking about when I say I don’t know what to do. What is the plan for inertia? So far the extent of creative inquiry has led to geo-engineering, praying and The Singularity.
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The quest for certainty continues. We want finality, something we can count on no matter what. Questions, ambiguity, uncertainty all that can add up to anxiety and a poor night’s sleep. But it reminds me of Ouspensky’s dedication in one of his books, “to Gurdjieff the man who disturbed my sleep”. Or the dancer Martha Graham who spoke of a “blessed unrest” that fueled her creative life.
Maybe our tendency to conclude too quickly relates to world weariness, a wish to embrace that long sleep waiting for each of us.
Was this somewhat the meaning of Dylan Thomas’s poem, Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night? “Rage, rage against the dying of the light…”
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Mike K — Just wanted to interject that I recognize that you are doing a job here which many others of us would do if we weren’t so lazy. Carry on. We’re watching.
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Early Capitalism
“Hey Mike, I’m going to sit here and make some great arrowheads today. I’ll give you one tomorrow if you give me some of the meat you get hunting today.”
Barter or a loan? I’ll loan you energy today so that you can build a tool that will help us access more energy tomorrow. Same thing happens in modern society. I’ll lend you some energy/resources so you can make something that will make us even richer tomorrow. Unfortunately modern humans have a habit of using energy to build things that have no energy return. When energy out exceeds energy in, starvation ensues. Modern society has a lot of energy out that doesn’t contribute to energy in. Society will be like a caravan traveling through the desert that starts to run short of water. Their path through the desert will be lined with items discarded (luxuries) and then dead camels (cars) and then dead people (not enough food) and then one last track, footsteps of the person that stole the last of the water.
Have we discarded anything yet? Space program? Research funding? Since the United States has 147 trillion in unfunded liabilities and the canteens are being fought over already, I can just imagine what will be jettisoned along the way and who will make that final track into the energy desert.
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William Catton’s Warning
“He believed that despite our considerable technical prowess, our social system simply cannot contemplate making the drastic changes necessary to mitigate the downslope.”
http://resourceinsights.blogspot.ca/2015/02/william-cattons-warning.html
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Our social system is so deeply flawed, it needs to be discarded completely. Only an entirely different way has any chance of going on. How to find/create embrace that better way is our essential problem. Any attempts to repair or remodel our current systems will be a waste of time.
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Great essay by fellow blogger, twitter follower:
Former Prime Minister John Turner talks about the IMF and Shah of Iran
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Mike,
Lidia has stated on Nature Bats Last that she has been banned from here. Is that correct? I realize that it is your choice, but banning her seems a bit extreme to me.
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She’s a troll.
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I probably should add that there was a similar argument at NBLand that I argued against some of Lidia’s points. I have been reading various Hunter-Gatherer literature, but I think it is just another form of escapism that I am indulging in. It seems to me that the most likely outcome of our current situation is that even the few remaining hunter-gatherer tribes will be hard pressed to survive if the climate disruption situation develops along it’s probable path. I feel less inclination at present to participate in online debates, as I tend to agree with Apneaman that the situation is now out of our control.
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Well you can simply accept that no one would survive or you can still take a chance to survive. Most animal migrants in new lands and islands perish but it only takes a few survivors to make a difference. A good example of this is America’s favorite shoot-on-sight bird, the european starling. So many of those things were released long ago by the original colonists that the number is mind boggling. The vast majority died off fairly quickly. Eventually, a few little starlings were able to adjust and the numbers of them present today is a testament to those few survivors.
Survival itself is a game of irrational attempts. Some of them you chose to undergo and some were thrust upon you like the starlings. Some of the attempts pay off and most of them don’t. Still, like any gamble, you have to at least try to play. Who knows? Even in a more hellish world you might find a little patch on some mountain or what not that isn’t completely ruined. That’s all you really need.
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Chimps kill, when a bad leader takes over, they kill more.
Bonobos are chimp cousins, who are way more peaceful.
Neanderthals — if you can’t fight ’em, fuck ’em, they didn’t kill themselves off.
We believe in Life After Dearth because, we are smart enough to know we will die.
Since we can’t function day-to-day knowing we’ll die,
we have become crazy with a high degree of functionality.
Indigenous tribal harmony is directly related to their ecological-energy balance.
You don’t need too much energy or work to survive in equatorial regions.
Whitey is fucked up because of the harshness of their ecological-energy heritage.
If I were smart, i would publish. Most PhDs are so specialized they have little to do with practical life. Knowing why ants always twitch to the left when they fart doesn’t necessarily qualify you solve humanity’s problems.
There is no life after death because it makes zero sense.
There are no multiple parallel universes.
We cannot travel through black holes.
Our planet has many unique characteristics for life to evolve.
Most of the universe is too high energy for life to exist.
http://www.fastcompany.com/3041493/body-week/why-a-fake-article-cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs-was-accepted-by-17-medical-journals
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Until someone can explain how evolution can “accidently” express a gene to camouflage an octopus to varied and erratic surroundings, then evolution is just a theory. Bunnies don’t turn white in winter and brown in summer by mistake. Eyes don’t happen by accident because light just happens to be there. If you can explain this to me, then feel welcome to reply.
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Gravity is just a theory too and there is way way more supporting evidence for evolution than anthropogenic climate change by a long shot. Why don’t you start reading the actual evidence for evolution instead of wasting time parroting talking points from evolution denier web sites. Sounds just like climate denial because it’s often the same people using the same lame assed strategies. There has been quite a bit of study since Darwin first published “On the origin of species by means of natural selection” in 1859. And the definition of a “scientific theory” is different than the everyday usage of the word. Look it up. Ask the folks at the Discovery Institute to explain DNA.
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Evolution will remain a theory forever because it is not possible to set up a controlled experiment over the aeons of time needed for observation. Perhaps a control (a planet just like ours but is lifeless) is surplus to arrive at definitive proof, but it is not obvious how we could exclude confounding variables such as divine intervention.
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Except one can watch evolution taking place in shorter intervalls. It all comes down to the time of one generation of a given species. One example is a moth in the UK. It changed its color due to darkening of the birch trees it used to sit on. You can read it yourself :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution
It is but one simple example.
Other excellent examples are the bacteria which aquire resistance to antibiotics (in a lot of different varieties), all sorts of viruses (e.g. influenca/the flu; HIV…), Weeds that are evolving to cope with herbicides and on and on and on.
And then you have the whole subject of genetics.
Also a scientific Theory is a well tested hypothesis documented by evidence. And there is so much of it for evolution it is overwhelming.
If you are interested in evolution and did not grasp the concept quite yet, this open course might help you a lot: (Evoultion, Ecology and Behaviour with Stephen C. Stearns; Yale)
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Thanks. I was really just expanding on Apneaman’s reminder that “theory” doesn’t mean that it is in doubt, but that it is an advanced hypothesis (for which a great deal of confirming evidence has been found). I confess I am not that interested in evolution: it can’t explain why I like the Violaceae family but not the Poaceae family, as emptily narcissistic as that sounds.
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And also why evolution can’t be exactly proved, according to the rigors of the Scientific Method. You’re welcome to correct me on this.
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Evolution can be proved in a variety of ways. From genetic testing on transitional fossils (of which there are thousands for every life kingdom), to observing adaptations in larger animals to certain environmental conditions (people who live in the desert for many generations have more efficient kidneys, people in malaria prone areas show the sickle cell trait often and natives of high elevation areas have more efficient lungs and higher hematocrit), watching genetic adaptations and changes in short lived organisms on islands or observing the original form and function of a specialized trait from fossils to the recent function (plumage for heat retention in dinosaurs which adapted for flight in birds).
Also, evolution is a baby steps process, and if you study the progression of a specialized trait to its final form it doesn’t seem impossible nor strange. The amazing color patterns shown off by many cephalopods didn’t start that way and began with a more simple pattern like a puffer fish darkening in hue when angry. Over time they developed two skin color phases, then three and so on. However many they needed to properly communicate or hide themselves. You can study this by looking at very ancient and relatively unchanged cephalopods versus the recent, more specialized species.
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I experienced the results of evolution first hand when my wife(native Brazilian) and I traveled to northern Brazil. She had almost no mosquito bites and the few that she did have were just tiny little red dots(no bump). Conversely, I (the whitey from North America) was covered in countless red bumps all over my body.
Over the last twelve thousand years (since the dawn of agriculture) malaria has killed enough people, particularly children, that those human populations exposed to malaria have evolved in response. Malaria’s sickle altered human genomes in nearly all of the regions in which it was historically present. It was the high jump over which much of humanity never made it and those that did make it often did so at a cost. Populations long-exposed to malaria are more likely to have sickle cell anemia but also each of tens of other adaptations that either prevent infection or make its consequence less deadly. Nearly all of these adaptations have side effects, sometimes dangerous ones, just less dangerous than malaria. No organism has influenced human evolution more than the malaria parasite (and its chariots, the Anopheles mosquitoes). This leads me to three hypotheses…
Why Mosquitoes Like You and Not Me
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Thus, I take it that evolutionists are satisfied that they have definitive proof for both intra- and interspecies evolution. Correct?
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Rephrased:
Yes, Whitey’s patriarchal capitalism has royally fucked up the ecological energy balance of Earth. Then Whitey wants to convince everyone else that this horrific and perverse state of the world is simply the natural and inevitable evolution of human culture. “It’s thermodynamically predetermined.”
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To the dominant culture, all of the worst is natural, thereby permissible. Rape, war, torture, massacre, subjugation, slavery. You will find no end to the list of justifications all couched in terms of the natural.
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I’ve been wanting to do a post on this and the fact that indigenous cultures are actually sustainable because their belief system is centered around the idea that Earth is animate. As I said recently to Jay Hanson, If one grows up in a culture that has a very mechanistic view of the world, seeing nature as something inanimate to exploit without end, then you will certainly treat the environment much different than one who grows up in a culture that reveres the earth as a living organism crucial for your survival.
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Why Evolution is True and Why Many People Still Don’t Believe It
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I believe in evolution, but it doesn’t explain itself very well. How can an octopus change its colour and visual texture to match random backgrounds?
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How Octopuses and Squids Change Color
http://ocean.si.edu/ocean-news/how-octopuses-and-squids-change-color
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Poor humans, all they can do is put on some camo and pretend that no one sees them. Evolution creates various hard adaptations, but the neurological system is meant to receive stimuli and react with information gathered and encoded outside of DNA. Evolution works with small changes, lots of death, losers, winners. Proof of evolution by random chance is evidenced by pudding. Over four billion years all the earth was able to produce was a suicidal, half-ass ape and a wide assortment of other less self-destructive species. Humans can now outpace natural evolution spectacularly but the species is still half-ass and semi-insane, which is why we’ll pursue any variety of escapism right up until we escape into extinction.
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James says…”Proof of evolution by random chance is evidenced by pudding.”
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That specimen seems very much to resemble a Homo erectus of yore, and the symmetry is good, strangely attractive although androgynous, and evidently the dopamine circuits are fully functional as it has smeared itself with banana pudding and is devouring it. I am sure it would scoop the brains from a dead hominid with equal gusto. Tool use already well-developed, too late poor ape.
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Similarly, capitalist carbon man smears himself with oil.
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Thanks James, the best answer yet, after years of trying to get one. It puzzles me how nervous systems evolve highly specific responses that directly resolves external stimuli as a result of random mutations. Most think I’m religious when i ask this. I’m pretty sure the pudding explains devolution.
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It’s a question of all at once or nothing. Further, there is no external registrar of change. Perhaps Rupert Sheldrake’s morphic resonance lends a clue. I’m highly doubtful, though, that such a thing is required for archaic man to have registered honey.
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‘Pornography Is What the End of the World Looks Like’
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i suspect most people like watching sex,
i suspect then there is good porn and bad porn
i know the world is filled with bad porn.
like bad acting, you know it when you see it.
but, you can’t really say why.
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Robert,
A good book to explain the evolution of the eye and other examples is Richard
Dawkins ‘Climbing Mount improbable.’ Another good one by him is ‘Unweaving The Rainbow’.
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Another of the unavoidable ,system flaws of industrial civilisation that was not a problem under a hunter-gatherer system is the introduction of non-biodegradable products and toxic synthesized chemicals into the ecosystem.This is a huge problem.See’Poisoned Planet’ by Julian Cribb
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Evolution – What Darwin Never Knew – NOVA PBS Documentary
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Excellent, thanks. Nova is one of my all time favorite shows, back when I was still watching TV anyway. Human brains had more room to grow because of a mutation in our jaw muscles. Amazing. Who woulda thunk it?
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There is a widely held misconception that human technological development is simply an advancement of the overall ecological DNA evolution. We tend to see other species as somehow inferior when in reality, because of our technological “advancement” humans are inferior. The seam that marks the transition between biological and technological evolution in humans is never fully explored to maintain the illusion of seamless progress where humans become the lucky beneficiaries of endless growth and ever increasing lifespan. Once again humans must paint a narrative that fills them with feel-good brain chemicals. The reality I am aware of is quite at odds with the official narrative. It’s not what Darwin didn’t know that should interest us, it is what the monolith of modern “scientists”, perceptually stunted, fail to recognize as we barrel towards oblivion.
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Towards the end when the number cruncher proclaimed her “Eureka” moment upon discovering that there are over a dozen mutations in an area of DNA associated with the human brain compared with chimps I sat up and took notice. She went on to explain that in the same area of DNA there is only one mutation when comparing chimps to chickens. Interesting!
I must admit to a moment of guilty, sci-fi geek pleasure when I pictured the black monolith scene at the beginning of the movie “2001: A Space Odessy“.
Step 1. Find a planet with a promising species of hominid.
Step 2. Introduce a carefully designed series of mutations in a key part of their genome associated with the brain.
Step 3. Wait a few million years and voilà! An intelligent species of humanoids that proceed to overpopulate, poison, overexploit denude, and otherwise destroy their planets biosphere thus rendering it uninhabitable for themselves and countless other species.
Oh, wait…, that didn’t turn out quite right.
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Always at the end of these Docs or articles the scientist enthusiastically proclaims how this is just the beginning for their particular field of science. Who knows what the future will bring! I have a pretty good idea and it’s not going to involve a bunch of funding for science. A world class expert in DNA, but got your head up your ass on what is happening to the rest of the world.
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A fairly accurate summation of modern civilization.
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Yes, thanks for posting this wonderfully educational video. Shortly after watching it i saw this:
http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/nature/post/exotic-new-seadragon-species-discovered/
Exotic new seadragon species discovered
Discovery in Western Australia of only the third known species of seadragon, and first to be discovered in 150 years, was nearly 100 years in the making
[begins]
An exotic new seadragon species—a bright-red specimen called the ruby seadragon—was discovered by scientists as they worked to understand and protect the world’s two known species of seadragons, Scripps Institution of Oceanography and Western Australia Museum announced this week.
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World’s coral reefs face major bleaching event this year, US agency warns
Worldwide bleaching of coral would be only third such event in recent history, driven by high ocean temperatures caused by global warming, RTCC reports
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/feb/19/worlds-coral-reefs-face-major-bleaching-event-this-year-us-agency-warns
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Cyclone Lam and Cyclone Marcia: Twin severe storms a ‘first’ for Australia
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/cyclone-lam-and-cyclone-marcia-twin-severe-storms-a-first-for-australia-20150219-13jycu.html
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I’ve been combatting a skin infection on the back of my left hand for the past three weeks. At first we thought it was a fungal infection, but topical treatment did not work. Now I’m taking antibiotics and was assured that this will work. This is really freaking me out. I’ve never had anything like this.
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Did you try apple cider vinegar or oregano oil?
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May try that and other things if the oral antibiotics don’t work.
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For 3-4 years I had a nasty reoccurring staph infection in my left tit-nipple-breast. The anti-biotics only worked successful after my sleep apnea was treated. Before that I was in a constant state of stress. I only got the equivalent of 1 hr restive sleep per night before I went on the CPAP machine. I was compensating by guzzling coffee, energy drinks, pain killers and even adderall for a while (stupid doctor). I was chock full of cortisol- Peak stress. It does a body bad. Your familiar with some of R Sapolsky’s work. Check your stress mike, it makes everything worse and harder to heal.
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Hope you get it resolved soon. A lot of bad bugs circulating, especially in the healthcare environment. We’ll throw more fossil fuel at them until we can’t and then they’ll win. Remember, it’s at an extremity, you can always get it amputated if all else fails. Just kidding, sort of.
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Very good article:
Why a new antibiotic won’t help diseases of poverty
Excerpt…
… Unfortunately, the antibiotic pipeline has dried up and dangerously resistant organisms have started to emerge. Health leaders are again recognizing infectious diseases as a leading problem, which explains the excitement that has surrounded the recent discovery.
Drug development has major limitations for curing infections of poverty.
Consider first that this new drug that has garnered so much excitement has not yet been put through rigorous clinical trials. These trials can cost well over 100 million dollars, and less than 8% of drugs that begin trials are brought to market. This means that unless there is the potential for a hefty profit, pharmaceutical companies steer clear of testing many drugs in development.
Herein lies the problem. It is harder for pharmaceutical companies to recoup an investment in treatments for infectious disease. In this case, it also means that there is still a low likelihood that the antibiotic that made the news last week will be available anytime in the near future.
Just as disconcerting, we’ve seen what happens when a pharmaceutical company decides to get behind a cure for an infectious disease. In 2014, Gilead received approval for the first cure for Hepatitis C, a disease that largely impacts those with less education and living in poverty. However, when Gilead priced their drug regiment at over $80,000, they effectively limited access for the patients with real need…
…A new class of antibiotics is exciting news, but that feeling must be tempered. Unless the world stumbles upon another golden age of antibiotic discovery, one new antibiotic will only buy us time in the fight against the ever-evolving microbes that surround us.
At this point in history, scientific advancement, while very important, is not the real issue in this fight for health. The real issue is that infectious diseases are diseases of poverty. The real issue is that new antibiotics alone will not save us from these diseases, but social solutions just might.
It is far easier and less expensive to fund research into novel drug discovery than it is to develop a society in which everyone has equal and affordable access to quality care. Perverse incentives can inhibit the organization and funding of a public health system that is able to educate, prevent, and treat infectious diseases that primarily infect the marginalized of society. Such excitement concerning the discovery of a single drug without a willingness to make more difficult investments reveals our failure to truly understand how bacteria and viruses actually work…
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That’s twisted……..I love it 😉
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I just left this comment regarding free will at Dave Cohen’s “Decline of Empire” site and it was summarily yanked. You would think I had insulted his mamma. Glad to be way ahead of him in grasping the Holy Grail, even though it happens to be filled with poison. I’m seeking a better typing experience and may buy a CM Storm Quickfire Rapid before I start writing/typing in earnest. Although I don’t really mind the keyboard on my Lenovo, I’m looking for a more satisfying experience.
Animals cannot be trusted with free will, the energy-return-on-energy-invested (EROEI) of their choices would likely be inadequate to cover the operating expenses of the flesh. Guided by long-evolved behavioral biases, there is no choice in what direction to travel (towards profit), only an array of choices as how to maximize return on investment. Human brains, on average, cannot work in reverse or make a “choice” to hinder themselves in the competition for survival, the rules of which were written in their genes over many millions of years. When humans escaped ecosystem controls through the use of tools and the information that specifies them, they were on the road to disaster. There were not equally fast-evolving behavioral controls that would put a limit to their unlimited competition for resources and energy. Today, most people will ruminate on how to improve their lot in life and take actions to do so without the slightest consideration for “nature” or unrelated tribes. Unfortunate that our leaders can only “go with the flow” until civilization destroys itself or burns itself out (literally).
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James,
Do you visit that site often? You should know that your comment has to fit within a very narrow range 😉
After all, it is Mr. Cohen’s right to do so.
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And must include grovelling.
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Exactly. You either agree with Dave and stroke his ego or you’re silenced. And never, ever, reveal his perceptual blind spots.
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WHAT ARE WE DOING TO OUR CHILDREN’S BRAINS?
Environmental chemicals are wreaking havoc to last a lifetime
“CDC figures also show that 10 to 15 percent of all babies born in the U.S. have some type of neurobehavorial development disorder. ”
http://ensia.com/features/what-are-we-doing-to-our-childrens-brains/
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This shouldn’t be surprising. We’ve been mutating and giving wild animals mental disorders with our constant flow of environmental pollution for decades. It was going to come back to us eventually.
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